On 10/21/2015 02:14 PM, Marco Stoecker wrote:
> 
> How do I identify whether the message comes from mailman or list1 or list2?
> Sorry for the questions, I'm not that experienced so far.


Here are some of the headers of your message as I received it from the
mailman-users list with my comments interspersed. How you actually see
these headers depends on your mail client. It may be something like
"show original" or "view source" or something else depending on the
client. I have removed some headers which aren't relevant to this
discussion.

> Return-Path: <mailman-users-bounces+mark=msapiro....@python.org>

Above shows the envelope sender of the message which is the VERPed
mailman-users-bounces address.

> X-Original-To: m...@msapiro.net
> Delivered-To: msapiro_m...@sbh16.songbird.com

Above are from my Postfix.


> Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [82.94.164.166])
>       (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
>       (No client certificate requested)
>       by sbh16.songbird.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CDC511E0176
>       for <m...@msapiro.net>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:14:41 -0700 (PDT)

>From my Postfix showing receipt from mail.python.org and id 4CDC511E0176
which I can find in my Postfix logs.


> Received: from albatross.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>       by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3nh4Mg1yt4zR5g
>       for <m...@msapiro.net>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:14:39 +0200 (CEST)

Postfix on albatross.python.org (another name for mail.python.org)
received the message from Mailman on mail.python.org.


> X-Original-To: mailman-users@python.org
> Delivered-To: mailman-us...@mail.python.org
> Received: from albatross.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>  by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3nh4M35Td4zQHp
>  for <mailman-users@python.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:14:07 +0200 (CEST)

mail.python.org receiving and delivering the message to Mailman


(spam_bayes related headers removed)
> Received: from localhost (HELO mail.python.org) (127.0.0.1)
>  by albatross.python.org with SMTP; 21 Oct 2015 23:14:07 +0200

Message passing to spam_bayes processing on albatross.python.org.


> Received: from metaxa.loswebos.de (metaxa.loswebos.de [213.187.93.206])
>  (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
>  (No client certificate requested)
>  by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS
>  for <mailman-users@python.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:14:06 +0200 (CEST)

Message received from your relay metaxa.loswebos.de by mail.python.org.


> Received: from [192.168.178.20] (ipbcc26d30.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de
>  [188.194.109.48])
>  by metaxa.loswebos.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D09F03A8C012
>  for <mailman-users@python.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:14:04 +0200 (CEST)

Message received from you by your relay.

Note that all the above headers are added by MTAs to the beginning of
the message so the "higher up" they are, the more recent they are.


> Message-ID: <5628001c.6020...@stoecker-family.de>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:14:04 +0200
> From: Marco Stoecker <ma...@stoecker-family.de>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
>  rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.8.0
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> References: <5509f231.4010...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <550af7be.4010...@msapiro.net> <550b15ec.20...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <550b2460.8020...@msapiro.net> <550b4c0d.2000...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <550b53e6.5020...@msapiro.net> <550c2f73.7050...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <550c34ed.2070...@msapiro.net> <550c3ff6.6010...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <550c46ec.6020...@msapiro.net> <550c4adc.9050...@stoecker-family.de>
>  <5626d222.9070...@stoecker-family.de> <5626def9.3090...@msapiro.net>
>  <56272d7a.20...@stoecker-family.de> <5627b5ba.2000...@msapiro.net>
> In-Reply-To: <5627b5ba.2000...@msapiro.net>

The group above are all in your original message as sent.


> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

This may have been modified by Mailman's subject prefixing.


> X-BeenThere: mailman-users@python.org

This was added by mailman to say the message has been processed by the
mailman-users@python.org list.

> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+
> Precedence: list
> List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users>,
>  <mailto:mailman-users-requ...@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>
> List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-requ...@python.org?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>,
>  <mailto:mailman-users-requ...@python.org?subject=subscribe>

Added by Mailman.


> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Possibly modified by Mailman's content filtering but not in this case
since there is no X-Content-Filtered-By: header.


> Errors-To: mailman-users-bounces+mark=msapiro....@python.org
> Sender: "Mailman-Users" <mailman-users-bounces+mark=msapiro....@python.org>

Added by Mailman.

If you just get the complete headers from all the duplicates of one
message received by one user and post those, I can help interpret them.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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