On 12/13/2015 12:01 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:

Have I more or less understood it correctly?

No.  Let us say you have 5 users on your list, us...@aol.com, us...@aol.com,
us...@aol.com us...@aol.com and us...@aol.com.

us...@aol.com posts a piece of mail to your list.
mailman tries to deliver to user2, user3, user4 and user5 @ aol.com
aol says "drop dead, we don't talk to you because of our DMARC policy"
mail to user2 user3 user4 and user5 bounces.  Their bounce count is
incremented.

But this account is still incomplete.

Besides what AOL does with the attempted deliveries to user2, user3, user4, and user5, you also get problems with delivery to users on a lot of other domains. The reason is that some other domains automatically consult AOL to see what to do with mail that claims to come from us...@aol.com but didn't reach them directly from an AOL server. They find that AOL has published a DMARC policy of "p=reject", and they obediently follow AOL's instruction to reject the post. So it bounces not only for the other AOL users (2 through 5) but for a lot of users on miscellaneous other domains.

The problem originates with AOL's DMARC policy but creates bounces in delivery attempts to users on many other domains because those domains have decided to respect AOL's published "p=reject" policy.

And Hal's report suggests that this is now happening not only with AOL and Yahoo (which started this practice in April 2014) but with messages originating on Hotmail as well. Can anyone check that Hotmail has published a "p=reject" DMARC policy?

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Larry Kuenning
la...@qhpress.org

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