Hi,

Several organizations I participate in use Kavi as the "collaborative" 
platform, which includes email reflectors (see www.kavi.com).  Kavi is in the 
middle of transitioning between two versions (Kavi Workspace 5 (WS5) to Kavi 
Workspace 6 (WS6)).

WS5 uses a modified version of ezmlm for its reflectors.  Either ezmlm or the 
modifications done to it use the "envelope address" (the operand of the SMTP 
MAIL FROM: command) to verify that the sender is a member of the list.  If the 
envelope address is not a list member, it generates a reject/bounce message 
which (oddly) uses the operand of the From: header in creating text along the 
lines of "<so-and-so> is not a member of this list."

WS6 uses mailman.  I believe that mailman doesn't suffer from this problem 
(that is, mailman checks list membership based on the header From: address, not 
the envelope from address).

Can someone verify with authority that this is the case?

(and OT for this list, Does anyone have any insight into why Kavi's ezmlm 
implementation is acting this way?  FYI, email sent via Amazon AWS SES is sent 
with an envelope address unique per email (it's explicitly different from the 
From: header address)).

Thanks.


Adam Goldberg
AGP, LLC
+1-202-507-9900

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