On 07/25/2018 05:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> >> Perhaps the wrapper message would look like today's munged ML messages - >> From: Real Person <mailingl...@example.com> / Reply-To: Real Person >> <realper...@example2.com> - but a list-aware MUA would largely hide that. >> >> Of course there are a million details and getting adoption would be hard. > Yes, one set of solutions would involve defining standards of how to > compose composite messages, with standards on how to display them. A > major part of the current issue is that for anything more than a single > part plain text you can't be sure how it will be handled.
First, the MLM side of this proposal is exactly what the Mailman "Wrap Message" action does. It wraps the original message, unchanged except for content filtering as a message/rfc822 part in an outer message. List headers and footers if any are added as separate parts in the outer message and all subject prefixing, From: header munging addition of List-* headers etc is done to the outer message. This action is almost universally ignored in favor of Munge From because of MUA deficiencies. There are MUAs that will render such a message in a highly readable manner, but there are others, particularly mobile device clients, that make it difficult to impossible to view the wrapped message. If Thunderbird can do a reasonable job of rendering such a message, and it does, there's little if any excuse for other MUAs to not do so. Even Yahoo web mail, which I just tried, does OK after I click "Show original message". But, when this was initially implemented, I tried using Wrap Message on my bicycling club's lists, and I received many complaints so I went to Munge From. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org