On 01/02/2020 02:26, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/30/20 7:29 PM, stinga wrote:
G'day all,

I can't seem to get acceptable_aliases to work...


(domain names changed to protect the innocent, but all match up)

c...@lists.lf.me = List email address
i...@lf.me = Google group (google group has one email address which is c...@lists.lf.me
i...@lf.me is a member of the mailman list and is set for nomail

User anot...@domain.com sends email to i...@lf.me

List receives email and bounces with:

     List:    c...@lists.lf.me
     From:    anot...@domain.com
     Subject: Testing
     Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

The above is correct as user anot...@domain.com is not a member of the mailman list


And that is the entire issue. acceptable_aliases and require_explicit_destination have nothing to do with this.

Yeah, that dawned on me shortly after sending. :-)

In the email header there is
To: <i...@lf.me>

I have in acceptable_aliases (tried various things)
i...@lf.me
"i...@lf.me"
.*i...@lf.me.*

and require_explicit_destination is yes

I believe that should allow email sent to i...@lf.me to be accepted by the list, maybe I am reading this all wrong?


All that does is avoid the message's being held for "implicit destination" it doesn't bypass other checks.


Yeah, that dawned on me soon after hitting send, I have removed all of the stuff in the setup

If I am doing this wrong how do I get a google email to send to mailman and be accepted?

There are a few of choices.

You can set Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> generic_nonmember_action to Accept in order to accept posts from any nonmember, but you may not want that.
No don't want that

You can ensure that everyone sending mail to i...@lf.me is a member of the c...@lists.lf.me list.
Can't do this really

You can make use of the fact that mailman considers a post to be from a member if any of the From:, Reply-To: Sender: or envelope sender addresses is a list member. Posts from google groups generally have no Sender: header, and the envelope sender is something like 'info+bncbcn2p7unuujrbfxhspsakgqe7gew...@googlegroups.com' where the 'bncbcn2p7unuujrbfxhspsakgqe7gew6fa' may not be constant. However, messages from Google Groups have a

Reply-To: groupn...@googlegroups.com
I don't have googlegroup in the email anywhere.
And the Reply-To: is the original sender in my example: anot...@domain.com

header. If that address is a member of your list, it should be OK. You say i...@lf.me is a member of your list. Is that an address you control which forwards to the google group?. If so, you want to make groupn...@googlegroups.com a member of your list set to nomail. If in fact by i...@lf.me you mean the actual groupn...@googlegroups.com address, then I don't know what the problem is.

i...@lf.me is a member of the list i...@lf.me is the actual googlegroup email, so not forwarded to the group but is the email you - hmm.. thinking.....


The only google strings are:

me@shark:~$ grep -i google blobby
 helo=mail-wr1-f70.google.com;
Received: from mail-wr1-f70.google.com (mail-wr1-f70.google.com
Received: by mail-wr1-f70.google.com with SMTP id z15sf2361825wrw.0
 d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com;
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; mx.google.com;
 spf=neutral (google.com: 83.223.99.6 is neither permitted nor denied by best
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyKisHZvFWpohBRwPsvt40r94Ro4WY604SjLb9Rw2YE/6H94rxWLjbpM/T9vccnjBUH9ona4Q==
 d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com;
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
 spf=neutral (google.com: 83.223.99.6 is neither permitted nor denied by best
 by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n16si5340484wrp.218.2020.01.30.14.03.44
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 83.223.99.6 is neither permitted nor denied
X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;       spf=neutral
 (google.com: 83.223.99.6 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record
X-Google-Group-Id: 631184299376


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