Mark,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 2/1/21 6:07 AM, steve lund wrote: > > > > I don't believe that the ISP changed the list configuration recently. So > if > > this is NOT a DMARC issue then any other thought as to what it could be? > > > DMARC mitigations are list settings set by the list admin (you) via the > web admin UI, not by the ISP. > Found that page. It was set to Munge. > > > Also remember that for some unexplained reason I, as the list manager, > > didn't receive the intervening bounce messages either. I don't know if > > these tripped Gmail's "throw it out" SPAM filter or something else > > happened. > > > Go to the web admin UI Bounce Processing page. Are all the notifications > set to Yes? If so, and you are not receiving The notification on disable > or the notification on bounce increment if that is on, and your address > is correct for owner on the General Options page, then see below. > > > > While troubleshooting this the ISP guy subscribed one of his bogus email > > addresses to the list to see if I would get the bounce messages. So far I > > did get one of them but Gmail put it in my SPAM box. I drug the message > to > > my Forums tab where hopefully when it happens again I will see it. > > > So it seems the notices are being sent and delivered to your spam > folder. You will need to regularly check that folder for these messages, > or you MAY (I'm not an expert on this) be able to create a filter in > Gmail to deliver them to some other folder, assuming Gmail filters trump > `spam`. For purposes of filtering, these messages are > > From: mailman@<list domain> > To: <list_name>-owner@<list domain> > Subject: Bounce action notification > Previously, i.e. 6 months ago I was getting these notifications just fine through my Gmail account. This tells me that the list config is correct. I can't explain why these went from no bounce notifications only unsubscribe to now being sent to SPAM folder. Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters! > These notices contain a copy of the bounce DSN and are the only way > short of MTA logs that you will know why the messages are bouncing. > > If I had to guess though, the next most likely thing after DMARC is the > sending server was blacklisted by some recipient domains. > This is what I was afraid of. Is there any way of confirming or denying that this is happening. ISP guy complained about having to tell Yahoo the mail server was a mail list and not SPAM. This would tell me that it was a blacklist problem. So how does an ISP keep their mail server OFF of the SPAM blacklist? Thanks, Steve > -- > Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/