On 1/25/22 16:27, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users wrote:

This is the mail log for the arrivale and dispostion of the test (moderated) 
message:

Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from 
localhost.localdomain[::1]
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E0AAF16006A: 
client=localhost.localdomain[::1]
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E0AAF16006A: 
message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E0AAF16006A: 
from=<pharmtox_faculty-boun...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, size=1426, nrcpt=1 (queue 
active)
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from 
localhost.localdomain[::1]
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from 
localhost.localdomain[::1]
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E2F4B160ADE: 
client=localhost.localdomain[::1]
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E2F4B160ADE: 
message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E2F4B160ADE: 
from=<pharmtox_faculty-boun...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, size=13239, nrcpt=1 
(queue active)
Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from 
localhost.localdomain[::1]


which is strange. I would expect to see Postfix log messages similar to this.

Jan 25 16:57:41 msapiro postfix/local[109148]: 57AAE3403CE: to=<li...@msapiro.net>, relay=local, delay=0.4, delays=0.15/0.09/0/0.15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/MM/21/mail/mailman post list1)


However, it appears that the first message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> is a message from mailman to pharmtox_faculty-owner and the second message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> is Mailman's resend of that to the actual owner address. When Mailman holds a message it may send a notice to the sender of the message and then if owner/moderator should be notified, it sends that notice to the -owner address and then when it receives that it resends it to the actual owners/moderators.

There is also info about sent messages including message-ids in Mailman's smtp log

--
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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