On 10/17/22 21:02, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote:

# cat /lib/systemd/system/mailman.service
[Unit]
Description=Mailman Master Queue Runner
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=forking
PIDFile=/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid

Try changing that to

PIDFile=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid

I'm only guessing where that is in the Debian package, but
```
locate master-qrunner.pid
```
should find it.


ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop
ExecReload=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl restart
Restart=always
RestartSec=3s
RestartPreventExitStatus=1

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Alias=mailman-qrunner.service


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It seems that it was looking for the PID file in "/run/mailman/mailman.pid" (below) and the above says it lives at "/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid"


/var/run is typically a symlink to /run, but https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/OOVT765SIUYN5U3X3HGO3YNAMFJW7NHY/ says you couldn't find a `mailman.pid` anywhere.


Oct 18 00:30:13 syd systemd[1]: mailman.service: Can't open PID file /run/mailman/mailman.pid (yet?) after start: No such file or directory


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