Mark wrote: "Please don't hijack threads. I.e., to start a new topic, post a new message, not a reply to an existing message."
Apologizes Mark -- that is basic list etiquette. I thought I had started a new message chain by erasing all text in an existing message and changing the Subject Line -- but nope, I was wrong. Will start entirely from scratch next time! Mark wrote: "Your list probably has a non-empty value for Non-digest options -> msg_header causing the header, possibly containing only whitespace, to be added as a separate MIME part and viewed by some MUAs as the message body." This is most likely the problem! Sometime between 1/7 and 1/10 I made a change to the formatting of individual messages in which I added a msg_header to all individual non-digest messages heading out to the list. I HAVE NOW DELETED THE MSG_HEADER AND AM MONITORING TO SEE IF THAT FIXES IT! Hopefully we are done. I will update if needed. Thanks, Michael Michael Reeder LCPC Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore, Maryland 410-871-TALK / PREFERRED ADDRESS: michael(at)securemail.hygeiacounseling.com On 1/13/2025 12:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Please don't hijack threads. I.e., to start a new topic, post a new > message, not a reply to an existing message. > > On 1/12/25 19:32, Michael Reeder LCPC Secure via Mailman-Users wrote: > >> I'm gathering feedback from my list of users trying to track down an odd >> problem in which headers display in individual messages (To, From, Subject) >> but the entire body of the message is attached as a text file and not >> displayed in the message. > > See the FAQ at > https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707 > Your list probably has a non-empty value for Non-digest options -> > msg_header causing the header, possibly containing only whitespace, to > be added as a separate MIME part and viewed by some MUAs as the message > body. > >> Subject to further information, this seems to be the situation so far: >> >> a) Problem started on or about January 8th 2025. >> >> b) People got magically switched from MIME display settings, to plain text >> settings in their GNU Mailman account. Still waiting to see if switching >> them back to MIME has helped. > > This only affects digest subscribers. Individual messages are not > affected by this. > >> d) The text attachments are -- not surprisingly -- in plain text. These >> people were originally subscribed for MIME format. > > Again, this only affects the format of digests and has nothing to do > with HTML vs plain text in any case. > > -- > Mark Sapiro > [<m...@msapiro.net>](mailto:m...@msapiro.net) > The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi All, I'm gathering feedback from my list of users trying to track down an odd problem in which headers display in individual messages (To, From, Subject) but the entire body of the message is attached as a text file and not displayed in the message. Subject to further information, this seems to be the situation so far: a) Problem started on or about January 8th 2025. b) People got magically switched from MIME display settings, to plain text settings in their GNU Mailman account. Still waiting to see if switching them back to MIME has helped. c) Two of the affected users are utilizing Microsoft Outlook. I'm not sure yet if they are on laptop Outlook clients, or logging into Outlook Web Browser interfaces for their email. Both of these people can read their GNU Mailman messages just fine on their iPhones. d) The text attachments are -- not surprisingly -- in plain text. These people were originally subscribed for MIME format. e) They state this problem is not occurring with any other emails or lists. One user is on an @usf.edu domain (maybe hosted by Microsoft?). One user is on Gmail (and using Outlook). One user is on an @mindspring.com account (Earth Link). Not all my users are having this problem. I'm hosted at Proton Mail and using a Thunderbird client -- not seeing this issue myself. Anyone understand what's going on here? Thanks, Michael Michael Reeder LCPC Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore, Maryland 410-871-TALK / PREFERRED ADDRESS: michael(at)securemail.hygeiacounseling.com http://www.hygeiacounseling.com - main website. This message is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not one of them, please notify me & delete it. Nonetheless, email is inherently insecure and confidentiality can not be assured -- use care in what you choose to disclose. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
