On 5 Jun 2013, at 16:28, Eric A. Meyer wrote:
At 20:59 +0200 6/4/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
It seems it varies a lot for users. The problem may also be affected
by a race condition since both MailMate and Googles SMTP server talks
to the IMAP server (and I have no idea exactly how the latter works).
In any case, I expect future versions of MailMate to work without
this and similar Sent Messages related problems (which have been
discussed on this list a long time ago).
Dunno if this helps, but I just tested a manual workaround that worked
to clear out two stuck draft messages from yesterday.
I looked in my Drafts folder in the GMail source, and saw a whole lot
of messages marked with red dots except for
two. There were already copies of those two (and all the others) in
the Sent Mail source folder, but the two Drafts copies hadn't been
red-dotted.
The red dot indicates that the `\Deleted` flag has been set (an IMAP
concept). Usually, MailMate only does that immediately before expunging
the message (permanently deleting it). In other words, red dots usually
means that another email client is involved, for example, Apple Mail
marks messages as `\Deleted` (but hides the messages) and then later
(not sure when) permanently deletes them.
I manually dragged the messages from Drafts to Sent Mail. There was a
flicker of activity, and then the two Drafts messages showed up there
again, but this time with the red dots. The copies in Sent Mail were
still there, and no duplicates were created in Sent Mail.
The Gmail problem involves the server doing things when not asked to do
them. Therefore, it is possible that MailMate shows a message in a
mailbox while it is not really there, because MailMate won't (cannot)
realize it before the next time the mailbox is synchronized. In other
words, be careful with the conclusions :-)
I wasn't watching the Activity monitor, so I can only guess, but it
feels like my attempt to manually drag the
messages over forced GMail to re-evaluate them, thus getting them
red-dotted in Drafts without creating duplicates in Sent Mail or any
other icky side effects.
Hopefully we won't have to understand the problem in more detail. I
believe the latest test version of MailMate is stable and it should not
trigger the Gmail drafts-problem. This version (r3481) can be fetched by
holding down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update
preferences pane.
The latest test version should also be good news for users receiving
TNEF files (`winmail.dat`). Out-of-the-box, MailMate should now be able
to extract these files.
I have also rewritten the release notes to sum up all the changes since
the latest public release (r3323, April 9th).
--
Benny
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