On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Kee Hinckley <[email protected]> wrote:

> For list owners, this basically means that either:
> 
>       • Your mailing list makes no changes to the body of the message in any 
> way and passes through the DMARC headers. (I think this works, leastwise I’ve 
> heard on the NANOG lists that posting to NANOG from Yahoo works if you do 
> text-only (they discard the HTML).

Nope.  We're fighting this on the Mailman installation for python.org.  If you 
make no changes, then the IP address of the MTA for the mailing list won't 
match the advertised list for the sending domain, and therefore that message 
will be rejected.

>       • Your mailing list sets the From: header to a local address (e.g. 
> no-reply@yourdomain) and puts the user’s address in the Reply-To.

Correct.  We are releasing Mailman 2.1.18 to allow listowners to address this 
issue, but you can also fix it in the MTA before the message gets to the 
mailing list.

A couple of my fellow postmasters for python.org are also well-known postfix 
developers (Patrick and Ralf literally wrote "The Book of Postfix"), and one of 
them is in the process of creating a milter on behalf of the DMARC committee 
that would allow people to easily fix this problem at the MTA.  I would expect 
to see an announcement via the DMARC committee on this subject in the near 
future.

> Needless to say, if you’re used to sorting mail by user, deleting mail based 
> on the from address, or other common operations in MailMate, you’re in for a 
> rude surprise if the mailing list does #2.

Yup.

> I’m mentioning this here mainly because I suspect it’s may mean subtle 
> changes in how MUAs handle lists.

Yup.

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Brad Knowles <[email protected]>
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