I can't use Mail anymore because MacOS broke it when they tried to get
smart with GMail. I otherwise found Mail tolerable in the same way I
find Thunderbird tolerable now.
I'm running Yosemite 10.10.2 on this laptop, which is otherwise a 13"
MacBook straight from the factory. A few applications installed for
work but otherwise virgin. Had it two years now.
Suggestions or hints on how to isolate the problem are welcome.
Thanks,
Jim
On 5/13/15 12:26 PM, Barton Lipman wrote:
I don't have the same size account as Joe, but will second his
endorsement. I was also using Mail.app and found it way too slow. I've
never had the kind of problems with MailMate you describe and think
there must be something wrong in your configuration or some process
that's interfering in some way.
Good luck!
Bart
On 13 May 2015, at 12:12, Joe Abley wrote:
Hi Jim!
I use MailMate with gmail and IMAP mailboxes, five accounts total,
with somewhere in the region of 5 million messages between them and
something like 25,000 in the combined inbox.
I have experienced none of the problems you describe.
I mention this not to call you a liar :-) but rather because perhaps
it points to a problem somewhere else in your environment; I'm
running the latest yosemite on an 11" macbook air, installed from
scratch (no upgrades or transfers from any previous laptop or OS).
If the history of the OS on your machine is more extensive than
that, perhaps there's some old cruft that is causing your problems.
Worth a look, anyway if you want to try harder with MailMate.
I used Mail.app before Mailmate, and only stopped because I have too
much mail for Mail.app to be able to thread properly. I gather this
is a known issue with the hash function used to index messages, but
having been through multiple point and major releases of OS X
waiting for a fix, I finally gave up and switched. MailMate doesn't
suffer from that problem, and now that I'm used to it I can't
imagine switching back even if Apple's mail team got their act together.
I've never been able to stand thunderbird. It has too much of the
stench of GNU about it, with the attendant disastrous
design-by-engineer/late-90s-X-windows design aesthetic. :-)
Joe
On 13 May 2015, at 11:07, James Galvin wrote:
I have spent almost 3 weeks trying to migrate to MailMate but
unfortunately there is something wrong.
This past weekend I submitted several crash dumps, just in case
anyone here can check those.
Sending a message here is my last hope so here goes.
1.
I use Thunderbird now. It works for me just fine although it
has one issue I've learned to accept. I was hoping to get
past this issue with MailMate, especially given the high
recommendations it gets. I've used MacOS Mail before but
with Yosemite that stopped working with Google Apps. Mail
tried to be too smart and it failed miserably but that's a
separate discussion.
2.
I have 4 IMAP accounts, 2 of which are Google Apps based.
The first time I tried a migration I just imported all 4
accounts using MailMate and let it go to work. This never
worked. It would crash if I ever tried to use it while it
was synchronizing. So, I bailed, removed the accounts and
started over with just one.
3.
MailMate worked great when I imported 1 account. I used it
for a week and was finally getting used to the changes when
I decided to import another account.
4.
Importing the second account has never worked.
a. MM crashes randomly. I have submitted some of the crash
reports I encountered though not all.
b. MM never sticks the default columns. I always have to revert
a display to the default columns. This randomly causes crashes.
c. Switching mailboxes randomly causes crashes.
d. Synchronizing has never completed on the second mailbox. The
account always shows a spinning wheel. I have removed and
restarted the import several times. I removed MM and reinstalled
once. I let the synchronizing run with an otherwise idle laptop
for almost 3 days over a weekend and it never ended. When I look
at the activity window it is actively stepping through messages
on this one account.
e. Oddly, the header line of "Trial day # of 30" randomly shows
it is day 3, 4, 5, or 6, always. As I said, I'm almost at the
end of 3 weeks now.
f. The mailbox in question is 1/5 the size of the first mailbox.
The first mailbox has almost 100,000 messages in it total. This
mailbox has less than 15,000.
I'm willing to start this process one more time if anyone
happens to have a specific suggestion on steps I could take to
better monitor the problem and see specifically what is going
wrong. I'm also wondering if submitting crash dumps is actually
helpful.
I'm willing to believe there might be something about my laptop
given that MM has so much success with so many people but I'm at
a loss to know what that is. This is a work laptop so it only
has what it expressly needs loaded on it.
Any thoughts from anyone?
Jim
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