350k email messages is nothing.

I have just below 2 million. 12k added each month, approximately.

There is something happening at startup that takes very long time. And I am 
interesting in knowing what happens.

   Patrik

On 6 Feb 2016, at 19:43, Helen Holzgrafe wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Also, if you have Apple's "Activity Monitor" (inside the Applications/Utility 
> folder) running when you start up Mailmate, you can directly see that 
> Mailmate is using 100% of your computer's available  CPU cycles during its 
> startup.
>
> That's why a Mailmate Startup window that shows some form of progress bar, 
> the name of each folder as it is being processed, or "25 of 300 Smart Folders 
> verified" or some other indicator gives the user faith that MailMate is 
> actually doing something and not hanging. This window also gives some clue as 
> to how long until MailMate is done with start up.
>
> -Helen
>
> On 6 Feb 2016, at 10:04, Helen Holzgrafe wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a partial explanation from my experience.  I have around 350000 mail 
>> messages, mostly archived, and quite a few smart mailboxes.  For a while it 
>> was taking over 10 minutes to start up, which was getting incredibly 
>> annoying.  I used the following method to get the time down to a manageable 
>> 30 seconds.
>>
>> I created essentially two archives. I have 50000 or so messages in the 
>> regular archive. These messages I actually want to search a lot and create 
>> smart folders from. I also created another folder inside the real archive 
>> folder that I call "Deep Archive". This is not a smart folder, but an actual 
>> iMAP folder. It contains around 300000 messages I must keep, but I don't 
>> expect to search or create smart folders from.
>>
>> Then, I created a smart folder called "All Accounts - No Deep Archive" which 
>> contains all messages in all of my accounts and excludes the "Deep Archive" 
>> folder.  Now all my smart folders use "All Accounts - No Deep Archive" for 
>> the Mailboxes to search in (the first tab on "edit Mailbox" window).  I no 
>> longer search "All Messages" for each smart mailbox.  Just in case it 
>> matters, which I do not know for sure, I also placed this smart folder at 
>> the top of my folder list so the odds are greater that it will be created 
>> first before all the other smart folders.  Only Benny can tell us if this 
>> placement at the top actually helped.
>>
>> Why does this work? My educated guess:
>>
>> My guess is that Mailmate somehow must be recreating the contents lists for 
>> each smart mailbox on the fly each time it starts up, rather than keeping 
>> that as part of its database all the time. Very time consuming at start up, 
>> but it does guarantee accuracy.
>>
>> Remember that messages can come in or you can mess directly with your IMAP 
>> folders while MailMate is not running.  So Mailmate must do something at 
>> start up to make sure all those smart folders have correct information.  The 
>> problem for me was that it was searching 350000 messages for every smart 
>> folder that used "All messages" as the mailbox it searched through.  That's 
>> a lot of messages.
>>
>> I also think Mailmate was also thrashing in some fashion trying to bring 
>> that many messages in and out for search. So, I also suspect that how much 
>> RAM memory you have in your machine will also affect how much MailMate goes 
>> into overdrive to get this start up done.
>>
>> It might be good for Benny to put up a window during this startup that shows 
>> how much time it is spending creating your smart folders or some other 
>> method of letting you you that it's actually working and not actually "not 
>> responding" as the operating system reports.
>>
>> Benny, how close did I come to explaining this problem correctly?
>>
>> -Helen
>>
>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 9:12, John Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried uninstalling MailMate, including its support folders, and 
>>> then reinstalling it?
>>>
>>> Patrik Fältström wrote (at 8:54 on 6 Feb 2016):
>>>
>>>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 17:45, John Cooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrik Fältström wrote (at 4:01 on 6 Feb 2016):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> When starting MailMate it does something. For a very long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's it say in the Activity Viewer while this is happening? (Window > 
>>>>> Show Activity Viewer)
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing, no response even from the application. No menus nothing. 
>>>> "Application not responding" in the mach kernel although it do send events.
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
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