On 15 Aug 2017, at 9:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

On 14 Aug 2017, at 16:44, Bill Cole wrote:

I'm pretty sure this is new-ish behavior, since I know it has not always been this way, although I guess it might be something I changed at some point. I am running r6090 on El Capitan.

I don't think it's something you have changed. Although I cannot recall the details then I probably just improved the HTML to text converter at some point.

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This is ridiculously unreadable, and does not even reflect the original HTML, as the [text](<url>) structure is apparently a Markdown thing.

Note that Markdown is supposed to be simple readable plain text and therefore it's also reasonable to convert to Markdown when trying to generate plain text from HTML. For example, this should result in reasonably good conversions of emphasized text or HTML lists. In general, MailMate always tries to loose as little information as possible.

Yes, but when converting to "plain text" it is disconcerting to have body text in the middle of a sentence wrapped in brackets and followed by an URL of any size. I don't generate HTML mail by choice, so using Markdown's *obtrusive* features in generating a reply just makes it less comprehensible. (But I'm a Luddite who believes lightweight markup reached its peak expression ~25ya with setext...)

BUT these ridiculously long URLs are certainly a problem, especially when using the plain text non-Markdown mode of MailMate. I guess MailMate could automatically strip (or “not create”) the Markdown URLs when the user does not use Markdown by default, but I think it should be optional. Maybe it should even be an integer option only stripping links longer than X characters. You could then set it to 0.

Does that sound like an acceptable solution for you?

Yes.

Since you're using the Python html2text, I think there the options that make links into per-paragraph or per-document footnotes might be a better general solution in addition to supporting no link encoding at all.

I don't want or need the original URLs in any reply. I don't want or need Markdown. I absolutely do not need or want a blob of "quoted" text which is neither the text I saw in the original nor the HTML of the original. I may be misremembering but I believe that MM used to do what I want it to do. How can I get that back?

A quick fix is to find the file within the application bundle which uses this command:

        "${MM_BUNDLE_SUPPORT}/html2text"

And then add `--ignore-links` to its arguments, but this change is of course overwritten whenever you update MailMate.

Thanks. Instead, I changed "IGNORE_ANCHORS = False" to "IGNORE_ANCHORS = True" in the relevant config.py and removed config.pyc to assure it would be rebuilt. I assume that will still be reverted by the next update, but it is also a bit more universal, applying to all places where html2text is used.


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