On 4 Mar 2018, at 12:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 27 Feb 2018, at 19:05, Randall Gellens wrote:
On 20 Feb 2018, at 1:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On a more esoteric note, it would be nice if MM could normalize
recipients names that are in annoying Outlook format, e.g., change
“Bozo, Fred” <[email protected]>
To
Fred Bozo <[email protected]>
MailMate cannot do this automatically. It's extremely hard
(impossible?) to correctly identify the various parts of a
“name”. Also, you have to assume that if your correspondent uses
this format then it's probably what they prefer to see when they get
a reply.
I disagree with this; I think in almost all cases, the recipient’s
client dictates how names are formatted. E.g., I think Outlook
imposes the quote-last-comma-first-quote format.
That might be true, but they can only do that if they know what the
last name and the first name is -- which they would usually only know
if the user has specifically added the name to an address book.
I'm a bit surprised if Outlook takes an incoming message, analyzes
it's “From” header, and then reorder its parts to a different
format. It still think this is very hard to get right.
I meant mostly that Outlook formats addresses in messages it sends in
the annoying way with embedded commas and surrounding quotes (often
nested single and double quotes). Undoing this would be terrific. I am
only asking for an option that, when enabled, converts
quote non-quote/non-comma comma non-quote/non-comma quote
into
token2 token1
MailMate could display the names differently (without altering them
when replying/forwarding), but I really mean it when I write that
it's extremely hard to do this reliably :) As as simple example,
someone might use this: "PhD Nielsen, Benny" and it would become
"Benny PhD Nielsen".
I agree it’s likely impossible to have an algorithm that always
does the correct thing. However, one that usually does the correct
thing is good enough.
The problem is that it would be very annoying when it fails. Then the
user has to manually edit the header to get it right.
No, the user can ignore it, because it likely won’t be any worse than
doing nothing. Keep in mind that it is only the form that has an
embedded comma and hence also quotes that is altered.
As an aside, this “Outlook name conversion” was one of my
favorite features of Mac Eudora, because it made it much easier to
read the recipient lists.
Ah, displaying recipients is a different story. I was mainly thinking
of composing messages. In this case, it would be ok if it fails some
times.
Yes, exactly, although Eudora also used the modified form when sending
replies, which was nice.
I don't have time right now, but I could probably make a custom file
for you which would replace the default “To” column with a
“Last, First” variant.
I wonder if an option to have a regex for name alteration might be a
workable approach? Leave it to the user to devise a good regex.
—Randall
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