On 31 Jan 2020, at 8:10, Thorsten Heitzmann wrote:

Hi,

I am having a problem with line breaks appearing in my stuff when mailed to other people. But it’s not as simple as it seemed initially:


- When YahooGroups recently closed, a group where I am a member moved to groups.io. Soon, others began to complain that my email s looked as if written by an idiot, full of line breaks. I then changed from „Markdown“ mode to „Plain text“ and everything was ok on groups.io

- However, now I get complaints about my normal mails having line breaks. When I write them, they’re ok. When I look at them in the „Sent“ folder, they’re ok. Yet the friend receiving them says that there are horrible line breaks. So I told her that the problem must be on her side, to prove this I opened Apple’s Mail.app, took that sent mail and re-sent it from within Mail.app.
Surprise: No line breaks.
So the problem must be with MailMate, I think.
I even went back to „Markdown“, btu that didn’t help.


Any ideas? Hopefully it’s just a simple user problem ;-)

No one can agree on what "good" and "bad" line breaking is, despite the existence of a robust and functional standard, because for most of the past 20 years Apple & Microsoft have tried to accommodate their own legacy formatting hacks and each others' idiosyncrasies, resulting in a massive mess.

MailMate "plain text" follows the standard: "Format=flowed" as defined in RFC3676 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676) and in its predecessor RFC2646, which allows a *smart* mail client to reflow paragraphs to whatever line length it prefers while maintaining backward-compatibility with traditional mail clients that expect lines to be 80 characters or less. The one thing that the creators of that standard (the key one being a subscriber to this list, as recently as last Spring) did not anticipate was that Microsoft would completely ignore the standard and handle format=flowed mail badly for years, as if they wanted their users to see every other mail client as bad at making email, while Apple would eventually abandon the standard in order to construct mail that looks better to Outlook users.

In short: to understand what's going on in your case, we'd need to see concrete examples and know what client is being used by the people who see your messages as problematic.




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