On 23 Jun 2020, at 14:35, Bill Cole wrote:

On 23 Jun 2020, at 12:38, Eric Sharakan wrote:

And to the right are two buttons: "Show Details" and "Allow Network Fetch". I understand the first button, but what exactly does "Allow Network Fetch" do? I clicked it but it didn't seem to have any effect.

Nearly all certs these days are not signed directly by 'root' certs but instead by an intermediate cert. In *some* cases it is possible to retrieve a needed intermediate cert based on information in the end-user cert. The retrieved intermediate cert itself can have its own problems that break verification, such as simple expiration or the use of obsolete weak algorithms, or it can itself be signed by an unknown cert rather than by a trusted root.

It should be possible to determine what the problem is by using the "Show Details" button.

Okay thanks. It turns out I deleted the mail in question, and had not clicked the "Show Details" button after clicking "Allow Network Fetch". What I did notice is that the "Allow Network Fetch" remained available and active, and the warning about missing intermediate certs remained, so I assume MM was unable to retrieve the intermediate Cert.

The lack of feedback of any kind that clicking "Allow Network Fetch" actually did anything is not ideal; can this be addressed Benny?

BTW, I remember the intermediate cert was from a CA named "PostSignum CA 4" (apparently from www.postsignum.cz). Any folks on this list familiar with this CA? Is it safe to install their certs on my Mac (I have several folks in the Czech Republic with whom I correspond)?

Thanks.

-Eric


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