The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password”
feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can
configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it,
then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.
Normally, password resets are done at the mail provider using a web
browser, not in an email client. Can you go to hotmail.com and reset
your password there?
--Randall
On 30 Aug 2020, at 14:24, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts. See my interlinear responses below.
On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Sam Hathaway
<list.mailm...@munkynet.org> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2020, at 4:55, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
"com.apple.Exchange.oath-refresh-token."
Thomas,
You mean, “oauth-refresh-token”, right?
Yes. You’re right.
If your account is using OAuth, your mail client won’t store the
account password.
The keychain items that MailMate stores for my GMail account (which
uses OAuth) are:
com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-token
com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-refresh-token
Neither of these contain my GMail password.
By contrast, for my FastMail account (which uses application
passwords), MailMate stores these items in the keychain:
imap.fastmail.com
smtp.fastmail.com
MailMate shows the server addresses for all seven of my email
accounts.
These both contain the FastMail application password for my account.
MailMate only shows the password for my Yahoo account, not for the two
Gmails, the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, the Outlook, the Hotmail,
my employer’s Exchange account.
Basically, if your provider uses OAuth, you’re SOL any you’ll
probably have to reset your password.
-sam
P.S.: Why do you have so many email clients?! XD
Thanks for the explanation about OAuth, which I didn’t know but
answers a long-standing question in my mind. Is four email clients
really very many to have installed? Anyway, I sort of drifted into
trying out new ones, not being fully satisfied with any of them. And I
sometimes find that one or another behaves eccentrically so drop it
and go to another one. I used MS Outlook on my PC for about 15 years
and liked its Address Book very much. Then I moved to Mac OS platform
and took up Mail, which I found inferior. Then someone recommended
MailMate, which does some things much better than Mail, but is
sometimes complex beyond my level of expertise, as in the present case
about passwords. Then someone recommended Spark, which is fine when
working right, but it can be devilishly recalcitrant to configure.
And, when I got Office 365 for Mac, it came with an improved MS
Outlook, which has the advantage of working more seamlessly with the
Microsoft Outlook mail and Hotmail. I have a 1TB solid state drive
which is less than half full, so reduplication of downloaded mail
isn’t a problem (yet). Yes, it’s sometimes tedious to keep all of
my accounts functioning properly in all four clients. But right now,
except for Hotmail in Spark, everything else is behaving as expected.
The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password”
feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can
configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it,
then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.
Thomas
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