On 2021-07-26 at 11:00:45 UTC-0400 (Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:00:45 -0700)
Ralph Alvy <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:
I forgot to mention that the Junk folder is not on the Fastmail
server. It is only a local folder created by MailMate. That seems to
suggest the only way it got there is via MailMate itself.
There's no such thing as a local *real* folder created by MailMate, so
that must be a "Smart Folder" whose contents are defined by some logical
definition, drawing messages from some set of source folders that exist
on the IMAP server.
MailMate does include by default a "Junk" Smart Folder that includes all
messages from whatever server-side folders you've labeled (or MM has
labeled by default) as having a "Mailbox Type" of "Junk" across all
accounts. If there's not a top-level folder named "Junk" on the server
side, I expect that MM would see one named "Spam" as the right folder to
include in the "Junk" Smart Folder.
So my *revised* theory is that your Spam folder on the Fastmail server
is set in MM as the Junk-type folder for that account, that they in fact
did put the message in Spam, and you moved it elsewhere before noticing
that it had been in Spam (which is down in the Sources section of the
mailbox list where you might not see it.)
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Ralph Alvy wrote:
But Fastmail has its own folder for that. It's called Spam. And it
did not put it in that folder.
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2021-07-25 at 20:15:31 UTC-0400 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:15:31 -0700)
Ralph Alvy <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:
I have no Inbox rules at all. Here are the Sieve relevant lines in
the
raw message:
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0
X-Spam-known-sender: no
X-Spam-sender-reputation: 500 (none)
X-Spam-score: 7.2
X-Spam-hits: HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.248,
HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST 0.001,
HTML_MESSAGE 0.001, ME_HAS_VSSU 0.001, ME_SENDERREP_NEUTRAL
0.001,
RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001, SPF_PASS -0.001,
URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_SPAM 7, LANGUAGES en, BAYES_USED none, SA_VERSION
3.4.2
That's a SpamAssassin header, added by the server. Your mail
provider
put that message in Junk, not MailMate. The total score of 7.2 is
significantly above the default SA threshold score for spam (5.0)
but
the 'X-Spam-hits' itemization shows that almost entirely due to one
issue: the "URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_SPAM" hit scored at 7. That hit
indicates
that there was a link in the message body whose domain is listed in
the
Spamhaus DBL list: https://www.spamhaus.org/dbl. It is rare for the
DBL
to list domains that are not exclusively used in spam, but it does
happen.
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