Microsoft officially doesn’t do DNSSEC.
(or at least not now anyway)

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From: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Rob Heilman <rheil...@echolabs.net>
Cc: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>; mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] DNS Errors for Microsoft Hostnames

I like to use this tool to tell me everything...

I used it on the first domain, told me there are 2 errors:
http://dnsviz.net/d/alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com/dnssec/

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Rob Heilman 
<rheil...@echolabs.net<mailto:rheil...@echolabs.net>> wrote:
Got a fresh batch of DNS failures in the logs.  Below is a sampling.  From the 
BIND source code resolver.c:

                } else if (result != ISC_R_SUCCESS) {
                        /*
                         * Something bad happened.
                         */
                        fctx_done(fctx, result, __LINE__);
                        return;
                }

Has anyone seen this before or know what might be happening?  If not I will try 
to escalate to ISC to see if they can help diagnose.

-Rob Heilman

04-May-2016 09:46:22.236 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:46:22.236 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:46:22.236 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://alleghenycourts-us.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000122: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:46:22.236 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://courts-phila-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000272: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:46:49.389 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.96#48950 
(petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:46:49.389 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://petersoncpa-com02b.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000078: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:22.030 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.96#48950 
(supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:22.030 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://supervaluinc.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000084: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:25.817 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.96#48950 
(casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:25.817 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000092: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:26.792 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:26.792 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://ghscoslaw-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000093: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:27.855 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:27.855 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://casella-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000090: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:55.476 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:55.477 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://slcccpa-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000079: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:58.769 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:58.769 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://dnvgl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000075: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:47:58.771 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.95#44080 
(pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:47:58.771 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://pennsylvanianetworks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000109: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:48:05.128 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.96#48950 
(AllianceTrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://alliancetrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
AllianceTrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://alliancetrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:48:05.128 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
AllianceTrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://alliancetrucks-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000092: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]
04-May-2016 09:48:06.028 query-errors: debug 1: client 10.10.10.96#48950 
(allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com<http://allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com>):
 query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A<http://allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/IN/A>
 at query.c:7004
04-May-2016 09:48:06.028 query-errors: debug 2: fetch completed at 
resolver.c:3074 for 
allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A<http://allianceretail-com.mail.protection.outlook.com/A>
 in 0.000085: failure/success 
[domain:mail.protection.outlook.com<http://mail.protection.outlook.com>,referral:0,restart:1,qrysent:0,timeout:0,lame:0,neterr:0,badresp:0,adberr:2,findfail:0,valfail:0]



On Apr 29, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Rob Heilman 
<rheil...@echolabs.net<mailto:rheil...@echolabs.net>> wrote:

I have increased query-errors logging in BIND to level 10.  Hopefully that will 
give us more to work with when the problem re-occurs.  Hopefully all the 
invalid PTRs won’t cause these logs to melt the boxes.

-Rob Heilman


On Apr 28, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Michael Wise 
<michael.w...@microsoft.com<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com>> wrote:


So is the FORMERR ... just the resolver noting that EDNS is not supported?
If so, I'm uncertain of the issue.
We don't use EDNS here, so that's what the “our” servers should be doing, yes?

Also, when I replied (“ALL”) to this thread a bit earlier, my response was 
bounced by one particular recipient with:

Error Details
Reported error: 550 5.7.1 Mail rejected - dcc score 1000
Retry count:       1
DSN generated by:          
BY2PR03MB409.namprd03.prod.outlook.com<http://by2pr03mb409.namprd03.prod.outlook.com/>
Remote server: *

Traffic to a mailinglist is scored with DCC?

Aloha,
Michael.
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Carl Byington
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:16 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] DNS Errors for Microsoft Hostnames

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On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 20:57 +0000, Michael Wise wrote:
> If the "Aware" flag expired, would best practice not be to check that
> first rather than presuppose that the facility does exist?

The check for "edns aware" involves sending the query with edns extensions. If 
the reply is formerr (or possibly others?), then you can remember that this 
server does not understand edns, and repeat the query without it.

If you just do the first query without edns, there is no mechanism to then 
learn that that server does indeed understand edns.


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