> On Jun 10, 2016, at 10:30 AM, John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> With regard to Mailchimp, as a non-customer observer it seems to me that 
>> pre-Mandrill was excellent, post-Mandrill not as much.
> 
> Mandrill is automated, which makes vetting the customers a lot harder.
> 
> They are painfully aware of that, not sure what they're currently
> doing about it.

They’re doing stuff. Closing down the free option was a part of their fix. 
They’ve made a few other changes as well. When I was there last month to give a 
talk to their employees I had a long chat with some of the policy folks. 

A lot of Mailchimp’s automated monitoring and pre-emptive handling is based on 
the email address lists uploaded. That didn’t map well onto the Mandrill model, 
where they don’t have pre-loaded lists. Overall, I think they’re getting a 
handle on it. 

But I really don’t expect any ESP to provide information to people just because 
they ask for it, no matter what the jurisdiction is. If you want a local 
provision enforced, then get a court order and have it enforced. Saying “you 
have to do this because my laws say you do “ and expecting them to do it, is 
naive at best. There are privacy issues involved here, and I don’t have any 
problem with a US company not releasing customer information to a foreign 
national just because the foreign national says they have to by law.

laura 


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