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Hi John,

Am Sa den  5. Mai 2018 um  9:54 schrieb John Cenile:
> We're seeing a LOT of our customers emails going to spam when being sent to
> Hotmail, most of the time with the following error:
> 
> *TempError (protection.outlook.com <http://protection.outlook.com>: error
> in processing during lookup of <DOMAIN>: DNS Timeout)*
> 
> Their SPF record is fine, it includes ALL of the outgoing IPs that we use,
> and this has happened on domains using different DNS clusters in different
> locations (including Cloudflare's DNS).
> 
> I've Google'd this error and either found unanswered Microsoft forum posts,
> or people saying to add the mail servers IP to the SPF (which I've done,
> same result).

It is a common problem with mail hosted by Microsoft (outlook.com,
hotmail, live.com, ...). They seems to make absolute stupid assumptions
about complete netranges.

> Our outgoing IPs aren't on any public blacklists obviously, and don't seem
> to have a bad reputation in SNDS.

Microsoft never publish their blocklists.

It is a pain in the a... with Microsoft. Contacting their support
doesn't help. If you even manage to get some intelligent person on the
other end, they just tell you that you are not on a blacklist. But you
are on one of their internal blacklists. No way to get of of them.

For example, more or less the full netrange of Hetzner is on their
blacklists.

> We have emailed Hotmail's support
> <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/getsupport?oaspworkflow=start_1.0.0.0&wfname=capsub&productkey=edfsmsbl3&ccsid=635701890986028985&forceorigin=esmc>
> dozens of times in the past, they are beyond useless - assuming they're
> even people, from what I can tell they're just copy and paste bots.

That is usual. Pointless spend time, sorry.

The only, you can do, is to get another IP of some complete different
range and try to deliver/relay mail over that. Maybe IPv6 is a solution
there. (I didn't test IPv6 for that. I just give up with that idiots and
tell my customers/friends to get a reliable mail provider.)

Regards
   Klaus
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