All true progress depends on SOMEbody sticking their neck out.
… I think.

Or maybe that’s just propaganda from the ones who would prefer to NOT stick 
their necks out, and thus keep them.

Aloha,
Michael.
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From: Mike Hammett <mail...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 8:46 AM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft blacklisting a /16

Pop your head up too often and it will get taken off?


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From: "Michael Wise via mailop" <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
To: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 2:22:06 PM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft blacklisting a /16


There are people from Microsoft on the list, but I seem to be one of the more 
outspoken ones. Heh.

However, it wasn't me.
Just saying.

Aloha,
Michael.
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org<mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Hetzner Blacklist via mailop
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 1:41 AM
To: Michael Rathbun <m...@honet.com<mailto:m...@honet.com>>; 
mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft blacklisting a /16

Thank you for your responses everyone.

When I checked the SNDS this morning I was very surprised to discover that 
Microsoft has delisted almost all IPs from 5.9.0.0/16. So 7 days after the 
entire range was blacklisted, it has just as suddenly been delisted.

I have no idea what caused this. If somebody was able to contact Microsoft 
because of this post, or somebody from Microsoft saw it and took some action, 
then thank you very, very much!

I would obviously still love to know what caused this, and what I might be able 
to do to prevent something like this in the future, so if anybody has 
information on that to share, please do so.

For fans of statistics: Microsoft is currently blacklisting 4,917 IPs
(544 from 5.9.0.0/16) from our network, which is a new all-time low. To me that 
confirms that we are moving in the right direction and improving.

Am 05.06.2019 um 17:31 schrieb Michael Rathbun via mailop:
> I recall that, about six years back, I put in a block rule for an
> entire /15 in the 5.0.0.0/8 range.  That was for EOP/Office 365,
> though.  In the subsequent months a total of two false-positive
> reports flooded in.  I don't recall it being in the area you mention.
> Plus you would have noticed it earlier, I would expect, if that rule is still 
> in effect..

That's really interesting, thanks for sharing Michael. I was under the 
impression that the Microsoft blacklist, at least the one for Outlook, and not 
O365, was an automated system. Do you know if it is still possible to manually 
add blocks? Maybe that happened here?

Kind regards

Bastiaan van den Berg
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