Depends who you ask, about the FPs.
If you’re doing testing, and you keep feeding it tests that look like address probes, you’re going to one set of conclusions, certainly. But just creating an account and sending it test messages is no way to evaluate the FP rate, for many, many reason. If you’re in this business, you should already know this. If you know how to explain what a, “Legitimate” message is, *BEFORE* it arrives, to a machine … I’d very much like to hear it. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket for Hotmail<http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866> ? -----Original Message----- From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Daniele via mailop Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 3:29 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition On 24-Oct-19 12:13 AM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Please define, "Legitimate" in this context ... in a way that we can explain > it to a machine. > > Please. As W. Churchill said "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results": so if you can't explain it to the machine and the machine keeps getting it wrong over and over, maybe the strategy is not that beautiful. Do you mean that, since you can't explain what a "legitimate" message is to the machine, the solution is to junk all messages so you can't get it wrong? Sooner or later the user will get a real spam message and at that moment ...yeaaaah! We filed it in the Junk folder! Great job, woohoo! How comes that, as far as I can say, no other Mail Service Provider has such a *huge* rate of false positives? _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fchilli.nosignal.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmailop&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7Cfd39b4af596a4b70000508d75808d242%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637074667219129403&sdata=notMjP36oQit7cg5iFzS4THrPRapUUVipBF%2F7qLqbYg%3D&reserved=0
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