Hi,
I am not a part of the BIMI working group but, I think it is cool in it's
own way. So I will try to add my 2 cents.


> - It is said to increase security for mailbox owners because seeing the
>   companies logo they now they can see the message really is from "
> brand.com".
>   I still doubt this will work, because I could easily create a logo that
>   looks similar to brand.com, but use "brånd.com
> <http://xn--brnd-roa.com/>" including valid
>   SPF/DKIM/DMARC which AFAIK are conditions that have to be meet in order
> to
>   display a BIMI logo.
>

For the time being the requirement is to have p=quarantine or p=reject on
DMARC and a pass, also significant volume, engagement and reputation is
necessary for BIMI to appear.
Whereas it is indeed easy to authenticate your domains, spammers still
don't do that due to them constantly switching domains and it being
time-consuming.
Needless to say, building a reputation with certain providers is also not
something that spammers think of doing or, in most cases, are able to do.


> - It brings more advertising to your inbox.
>

I don't think it brings more advertising than it used to. It just makes it
better to distinguish emails instead of subject line and from name that you
usually first see.


> - It establishes a payment mechanism for receivers, which they can exert on
>   email marketing companies and their customers. "We will not display your
>   company logo in the (web)mail client unless you pay us money."


Payment is not yet needed and, to be fair, I do hope that it will stay
unnecessary, as this does bring some thought that "oh, I need to pay to
make the Internet experience better for this specific mailbox provider?".
However, I also understand that it would bring another level of security
and in this case such certification could completely eliminate the first
doubt you had about the ease of authenticating domains. Just another layer
of credibility.

So it is not yet so clear how this will go further but, I personally am
looking forward to how things will develop.

Regards,
Vytis

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:13 AM Patrick Ben Koetter via mailop <
[email protected]> wrote:

> * Thomas Walter via mailop <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > On 05.12.19 02:20, Matt Vernhout via mailop wrote:
> > > Stay tuned for more info on the bimigroup.org website, we are
> planning to add more info very soon.
> >
> > But why?
>
> Here's what I have heard, but haven't had time yet to verify or read deeper
> into. Not so nice things, though:
>
> - It is said to increase security for mailbox owners because seeing the
>   companies logo they now they can see the message really is from "
> brand.com".
>
>   I still doubt this will work, because I could easily create a logo that
>   looks similar to brand.com, but use "brånd.com <http://xn--brnd-roa.com>"
> including valid
>   SPF/DKIM/DMARC which AFAIK are conditions that have to be meet in order
> to
>   display a BIMI logo.
>
> - It brings more advertising to your inbox.
>
> - It establishes a payment mechanism for receivers, which they can exert on
>   email marketing companies and their customers. "We will not display your
>   company logo in the (web)mail client unless you pay us money."
>
>
> p@rick
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