>     Il 08/07/2020 10:57 Laura Atkins via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> ha 
> scritto:
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>         > >         On 7 Jul 2020, at 23:35, Brandon Long via mailop 
> <mailop@mailop.org mailto:mailop@mailop.org > wrote:
> > 
> >         And I think this discussion is underestimating the number of users 
> > already being tracked at the DNS level by their ISPs.
> >         I know I may be odd here working for one of the big players, but I 
> > trust the privacy policies and statements of some of the "large 
> > centralized" providers you
> >         mention over my telco.
> > 
> >     > 
>     I expect that most of the telcos are unlikely to have any instrumentation 
> for tracking users beyond what is needed to ensure the service works. The 
> companies that are offering DoH as a service and have gone so far as to talk 
> about what they’re doing with the data likely have a lot more instrumentation 
> and the ability to track users than the telcos do. 
> 
Also, the legal framework of the DNS provider may be different from that of the 
ISP. A telco in the European Union is heavily regulated and sits under a very 
strict privacy protection regime; its customers have a contract with it, a 
direct communication channel and several practical ways to enforce their data 
protection rights. On the other hand, the DNS provider often is in a different 
part of the globe, under much less restrictive privacy laws, with no customer 
support and no contract with the end user; this indeed gives them more 
opportunities for uncontrolled abuse.

Moreover, while the ISP's service is paid for by your Internet access fees, it 
is often hard to understand what's the business model for global DNS service, 
or why a business is spending significant amounts of money to provide DNS 
resolution on a global scale for free, if they will never monetize the data in 
any way. Even if it were just goodwill, it does not seem wise to base the 
functioning of a vital part of any Internet access service globally on the 
goodwill of a handful of companies.

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Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange
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