On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 4:49 PM Jim Popovitch via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

>
> Good, DMARC is good, but we don't need yet another standard to get DKIM
> and SPF into the wider use.
>

Based on the data I see on the receiving side I disagree. But that's ok.


> I hope you understand that most providers don't care if your logo
> service is alive and well.  Surely we don't need a spec for that.
>

Exactly. I see this went over your head.

Whether you understand it or not, if a proxy or cache fetches your logo,
> you can get very valuable data about inbox hit rate data, eg tracking.


No, if you care about your users' privacy you would not implement anything
which would allow senders to do what you say BIMI enables.

This means in our case: If you -- as a sender -- publishes a BIMI logo all
you can track is when our logo service is fetching your logo.  Which might
be exactly once (ie: one time) when you update it. Our MUAs don't fetch
BIMI logos from the source.

So all it well tell you is

1: Our MTA saw mail coming in from your domain
2: We probably trusted you enough to see if you have a BIMI logo
3: We fetched that BIMI logo
4: A Verizon Media IP connected to your hosting server
5: Our system is alive and working (well, at least it's requesting logos)

That's it.
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