Heho,
> If they did, they would age them for at least a year before turning them into 
> traps, by which time the DMARC records would be long gone.
I generally agree with your argument, that this is a really unlikely scenario. 
Also, because the spam-trap domain would naturally lack the 
<domain>._report._dmarc. record necessary, this pretty much will not be the 
case; I overlooked that. 

However, judging from the state of DMARC reporting by the bounces hitting my 
report-from (_large_ orgs having non existent mailboxes in there etc.), I'd 
argue that the only thing that prevents ruf/rua that are stale for a decade is 
the age of RFC7489.

With best regards,
Tobias

-----Original Message-----
From: mailop <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Levine via mailop
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:23
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamhaus: Get more details about LISTING (Could a DMARC 
Report Address point to a spamtrap)?

It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop <[email protected]> said:
>Heho,
>I recently described how this could actually be used by a malicious 
>third party to cause a sender to be blocklisted by major mail operators (see 
>thread titled "DMARC/TLSRPT to non-existing accounts/reflection and sender 
>reputation" from the end of April). However, in your case it does not really 
>sound malicious.
>
>Still, spamhaus might have picked up expired domains to setup spam 
>traps, and you may be sending to a ruf/rua on an expired domain. (Note: 
>Wild guess)

If they did, they would age them for at least a year before turning them into 
traps, by which time the DMARC records would be long gone.
That's not it.

I suppose someone could set up a malicious MX to aim random junk at mail 
servers, but Spamhaus' trap servers are pretty hard to find.

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