I suspect your webmail system is putting certain headers in the email, that 
Hotmail/Outlook detects, and Hotmail/Outlook have detected a issue with the 
particular webmail system, like a security issue that allows unauthorized users 
to send spam through the webmail system, causing Hotmail/Outlook to blanket 
block that particular webmail software.

 

My suggestion: Send an email to yourself from the webmail system, and then from 
a desktop client.

 

Compare the headers. Then set up your outgoing SMTP server, to dump/modify 
those headers that the webmail system is putting in, effectively hiding that 
the mails are sent by that particular webmail software.

 

NOTE: ONLY do this after you are sure that there is no issues with your 
installation of webmail software (ero either upgraded to latest version, or any 
security holes back-ported and patched). Else you risk either getting blocked, 
or causing other issues like Thunderbird becoming spam filtered (however pretty 
low risk of that).

 

Från: Rob McEwen via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> 
Skickat: den 1 juni 2022 23:26
Till: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Ämne: [mailop] outlook/hotmail (silently!) putting legit msgs into "Junk Email" 
folder

 

RE: outlook/hotmail (silently!) putting legit msgs into "Junk Email" folder

All of a sudden - my users are having either all or most of their webmail-sent 
legit hand-typed messages going to outlook/hotmail - placed into 
outlook/hotmail's "Junk Email" folder - specifically, when logged into the 
outlook/hotmail webmail site. But if the same message is instead sent by the 
user from their Outlook Desktop app or Thunderbird, it works. Fwiw, the 
accounts I tested had SFP and DMARK setup and working correctly. (fwiw, I'm 
using the same webmail setup that I've used for a long time - no recent changes 
there.)

I've reached out to some of my contacts at Microsoft - so I'm waiting to hear 
back from them - but in the meantime - is anyone else seeing this? Any 
suggestions?

The kind of messages getting blocked - would be the kind that I would be 
embarrassed by if my system were blocking such hand-typed not-spam business 
emails - this must be overzealous spam filtering - but if, in the meantime, I 
could find a workaround to get past this, that would be great!

Also, I think this is appropriate for Mail Op because (1) others could be 
having this issue too, but not even be aware of this yet? These message are 
getting "250 OK" responses, so this won't get noticed as quickly! and (2) 
messages going to outlook/hotmail are a statistically significant percentage of 
all email, so this might be a new issue impacting many many people.

-- 
Rob McEwen, invaluement
 
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