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> On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:57 PM, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So basically, what would be interesting to have is both : land the email in 
> the spam folder but notify the sender about if, maybe via an ARF report ?

As someone whose addresses is regular forged in spam: NO. 

Laura

> That way, the event organizer or the one applying for a job would be able to 
> notify the recipient about the email being in spam.
> 
>> Le jeu. 15 sept. 2022 à 22:33, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <[email protected]> 
>> a écrit :
>> Dnia 15.09.2022 o godz. 11:32:41 Jay Hennigan via mailop pisze:
>> > 
>> > If recipients at least periodically scan the contents of the spam folder 
>> > and
>> > mark wanted mail, this avoids the need for the sender to communicate
>> > out-of-band to deliver the original (and likely future) messages as would 
>> > be
>> > the case with a rejection.
>> 
>> I understand that was the whole assumption behind the concept of spam
>> folders. If it actually worked this way, spam folders wouldn't be any issue.
>> But this assumption failed: the reality is that 99% of users don't check
>> their spam folders at all, so directing a message to spam folder effectively
>> equals blackholing. The sender needs to communicate out-of-band anyway to
>> ask the recipient to check their spam folder.
>> 
>> Spam folder can work if the user is setting it up him/herself. That is, the
>> provider's antispam system only tags the message as spam (in subject or
>> another header) and the user must manually set up a filter to move tagged
>> messages into spam folder. Because they set it up themselves, chances are
>> they will look into it from time to time. If this is something that is
>> preconfigured for them by the provider, they usually don't look anywhere else
>> except the main inbox.
>> 
>> Of course, training the filter by moving the messages in and out of spam
>> folder will be harder to implement by the provider in this setup, but it is
>> still possible to do.
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>    Jaroslaw Rafa
>>    [email protected]
>> --
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