Indeed. We use SRS though and Google seems to like it fine enough, I just mean to say that I’ll never filter 1:1 what Google considers to be spam from email forwarding. It’s not all even spam really, but like any of us they have their own challenges.

I also noticed our list friend Al made a blog post about the new messages they return: https://www.spamresource.com/2023/11/gmail-new-spam-related-rejections-and.html?m=1

I “think” these new messages represent a clarification on the reasons more than a change of the internal reasons. I’ve long suspected their IP rate limit message of only sometimes being an actual IP based rate limit. I just never sat down long enough to prove it.

On 2023-12-17 02:00, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 16.12.2023 um 16:07:19 Uhr schrieb Jarland Donnell via mailop:

Obligatory: We don't intend to send any email their way that could be
perceived as unsolicited, but our users do use forwarders and we'll
never completely match their filters.

If they use forwarders, SPF will fail in the case the envelope sender
isn't rewritten. Check your logs for that.
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