On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 11:29:23AM -0700, Seth Mattinen via mailop wrote:

> Looking for someone who handles mail in duke.edu for a sub-delegation. I am
> having problems with mail delays on @dm.duke.edu due to DNS lookup failures
> causing domain does not exist errors.

The are of course (soft-fail) deferred, because the DNS lookup failures
are not definitive, SERVFAIL is not NXDOMAIN.

> 2024-09-18T10:22:33.457792-07:00 mail postfix/smtpd[4184837]: NOQUEUE:
> reject: RCPT from unknown[2600:1806:511:210:1eaf::11]: 450 4.1.8
> <[email protected]>: Sender address rejected: Domain not
> found; from=<[email protected]> to=<[email protected]>
> proto=ESMTP helo=<mx1.dnsmadeeasy.com>

> Looking at DNS shows me the following (and DNSViz):
> 
> dm.duke.edu. 21600 IN NS nameserver1.mc.duke.edu.
> dm.duke.edu. 21600 IN NS nameserver2.mc.duke.edu.
> ;; Received 135 bytes from 152.3.105.232#53(dns-auth-02.oit.duke.edu) in 76
> ms
> 
> nameserver1.mc.duke.edu has address 152.16.1.4
> nameserver1.mc.duke.edu has IPv6 address 2620:0:691:dc50::4
> 
> nameserver2.mc.duke.edu has address 152.16.1.12
> nameserver2.mc.duke.edu has IPv6 address 2620:0:691:dc57::12

But do you really only have IPv6 connectivity?  Sadly, you really should
have at least one IPv4-capable MX host whose iterative nameservers can
reach the IPv4 Internet.  Many mail systems are still only V4-capable,
or their DNS is only available via IPv4 (no IPv6 NS IPs to even attempt
to query).

> Fails on IPv6:
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Debian <<>> MX dm.duke.edu @2620:0:691:dc50::4
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Debian <<>> MX dm.duke.edu @2620:0:691:dc57::12
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

I see the same, and they really *should* fix this, but you'll continue
to have problems with mail from other senders.  Listing non-working
IPv6 nameservers is substantially worse than not listing any IPv6
nameservers at all.

-- 
    Viktor.
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