Hi Yuval, I don't think it's that straightforward, or maybe I don't know enough about the legal aspects of it all. I know there are other lawyers on the list, maybe they can chime in as well.
All I know is that the EU has, like others, disabled the access of Outlook Mobile (and 'New' Outlook as well I imagine) due to this behavior: https://borncity.com/win/2023/11/12/beware-new-outlook-app-transfers-access-data-to-microsoft/ So if the EU decided to just block the app instead of taking further action, maybe it's not warranted ? Or are they preparing something behind the scenes... Scott On Wednesday, 11/12/2024 at 17:18 postfix--- via mailop wrote: On 2024-12-11 15:11, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > On 2024-12-11 11:20, Scott Q. via mailop wrote: >> I find that beyond the : >> >> - security risks >> - privacy concerns >> - inability to troubleshoot connection issues >> - being exposed to MS outages >> - inability to optimize routing for global customers >> >> there is also the glaring fact that MS is a competitor in this space. >> What stops them 12 months from now from simply saying: Your provider >> doesn't support Modern Auth ( there is still no agreed-upon standard >> in fact ) - switch to MS365 for a better experience ? >> >> The whole thing seems very anti-competitive to me. > > This appears to be the plan. and it is indeed anti-competitive. If anyone in Canada is willing to work with me to put together the technical side, I am happy to write, and even represent them pro-bono, to the Competition Commissioner as a lawyer. And to answer what you reported on another thread, Michael, (the Paypal phishing), they are at the very least negligent and would deserve to be class-actioned by a US-based lawyer representing people who got phished. > Sometimes, makes you even wonder if they intentionally allow spammers No intention necessary to demonstrate benefits from the misdeeds. And frankly, many on this list also benefit from the misdeeds (I am looking at you, anti-abuse industry). On 2024-12-11 14:44, Pete Long via mailop wrote: > Opinions are like arseholes, Graeme, everyone has one. which is why Graeme's advice is even more important to follow. A decision-make will prefer their own smell than that of anyone else. When I try to persuade a decision-maker that an entity is a wrongdoer, I plead facts, not opinions. I am pretty sure that my opinion is similar to the one that triggered the admin notice. That is not a good reason to expose either. On the other hand, exposing the facts, such as where the credentials are stored and what the consequences are, is something that deserves more awareness. -- Yuval Levy, Ontario-licensed lawyer _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
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