On 2025-10-19 at 06:57:53 UTC-0400 (Sun, 19 Oct 2025 12:57:53 +0200)
Alessandro Vesely via mailop <[email protected]>
is rumored to have said:

On Sun 19/Oct/2025 03:22:00 +0200 Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 06:14:03PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:

How much trust should we put in the not-before date of a self-signed certificate ?

None. For reputation based on how long a client domain has been around, one would need to maintain a history of client connections, and assign a small positive score to clients that have been connecting for months or years, and have managed to stay clean. A reputation service may be able to curate this sort of data.


Hm... certificates are real, reputation services are not: When I enter my server's IP into TrendMicro's "reputation service"[*] it says it doesn't exist. Yet, it has a Letsencrypt certificate. Ditto for mailop's MX.

It at least admits my IP range exists, but it's all in their DUL, which is wrong and has been wrong for a dozen years. I've never had reason to care.

All that says is that TrendMicro bought the MAPS assets and let them rot. It does not speak to reputation services in general.

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