On 27/11/2025 00:01, Kyrian (List) via mailop wrote:
Folks,

Time for a major change to spam handling for me. Possibly overdue.

What's the consensus? In times where 2 factor authentication emails are frequently completely pointless trying to go through greylisting where they are delayed beyond their timeouts. But where spammers obviously still persist. Is it still worth trying to greylist, or rely on other methods instead? Is it the case where SMTP-time spam/virus scanning is a necessity and greylisting should be removed? How do other folks on the list balance out this conflict in their systems?

K.

I always suggest to do selective greylisting as an alternative to unconditional greylisting and no greylisting at all. In general, you do not greylist apparent HAM (e.g. mails from your trusted senders or dmarc/dkim whitelists) but you do greylist suspicious messages. Why do it - because on the second attempt a malicious content (e.g. urls, IP addresses or even content hashes) could strike spamtraps in the world and that message will be properly classified not as suspicious but rejected/quarantined as SPAM.

That's the default way of greylisting in Rspamd, and the only drawback is that you'd have to read message till EOD to do that. On the other hand, Rspamd won't do expensive checks if greylisting threshold is reached, and it will use content hashes to allow greylisting to be passed if a message is being re-sent from a completely different IP range (that was a known issue when interoperating with Gmail back in past).

For sure, even with this approach there could be some troubles with certain 2FA messages, but it's still possible to do some clever exceptions for them (by domains, by IP ranges or even by content that is typical for 2FA messages).
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