On 2026-09-10 08:34, John Stoffel via mailop wrote:
fedup with the dovecot 2.3 to 2.4 migration pain

pain indeed it is.

mail-in-a-box (https://mailinabox.email/)

uses the same painful dovecot.

or Stalwart

while it looks interesting, it suffers the same power-imbalance as Dovecot at the licensing terms: "open source" is merely a strategic on-ramp to the sort of vendor lock-in that comes when a developer has more control of the software than anybody else. Same licensing defect as Dovecot. Same expected evolution over time, just fancier marketing and newer programming language / more modern feature set.

I migrated from Cyrus IMAP to Dovecot a dozen years ago. I don't have notes documenting that decision, but I am certainly tempted to migrate from Dovecot back to Cyrus IMAP for my small legal practice.

On 2026-09-10 09:13, Marco Davids (SIDN) via mailop wrote:
> https://www.xmox.nl/

neat. what I find more painful (counterintuitively) is the automated configuration, catering to cloud providers and MTA's like Thunderbird that are all becoming the same Einheitsbrei (apology to non-German speakers, that terms just captures perfectly the tasteless, odorless, undistinguishible mushy and uninteresting stuff that they are all becoming). The reason to not use big tech service is certainly not to be like them. Aim to be better, at least you will be different.

Yuv
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