Okay, good to know. I'm still finding out things about this program.

-----Original Message-----
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Andre Louis
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: QWS List Something Weird with Kurzweil K2600EX Patch Changes

No need to even record. AS long as 'MIDI in dialogs' (Options >Options) is
checked, go into the properties for a track, hit plus on the keyboard, or
bank change etc, and see what happens.
When I got my Roland FA-06, I didn't know what the Supernatural bank was,
and I did that to find out. Saved trawling the manual and converting the lsb
msb values which I always forget how to do anyway.

Cheers.


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From: "Gordon Kent" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List Something Weird with Kurzweil K2600EX Patch Changes


>                                            If it works like that, is there

> any reason why you would need an lsb value at all?  I think you hit the 
> nail on the head with your theory that it is in base 8.  What happens if 
> you go into record on a track and manually make a bank change from the 
> keyboard itself?  You should be able to see what controller data was 
> recorded on the track to verify.
> Gord
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Nicole Massey
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 PM
> To: QWS list
> Subject: QWS List Something Weird with Kurzweil K2600EX Patch Changes
>
> This can't be what I'm suspecting it is, but here goes.
> I got my big Kurzweil K2600ex out of the garage and plugged it in. (This 
> is
> no mean feat, as it weighs about 76lbs) After getting everything 
> responding
> and patched in with the new live rig I did what everyone does, I started
> working on an instrument definition file for QWS. I used Instavert to
> convert the Cakewalk definition file and started working with it to find 
> out
> what it does and if it needs high definition bank changes. (Most things 
> do,
> but I've found exceptions, like the Proteus VX) Load the file, start 
> walking
> things upward, and I'm getting responses on the first two banks using low
> definition files, and then a big bag of nothing after that. Okay, I did my
> little trick to load the INST file into Notepad, do the find and replace 
> to
> replace commas with tabs, and paste it into Excel, then do a fast formula
> and boom, there's the high definition bank change values in multiples of
> 128.
> No joy. So I start going into the bank change data to check things. And I
> find that I have four banks of sounds, but they show up on bank 0, 1, 8, 
> and
> 9, and then again and again going up in multiples of 128. The only way I
> could imagine that happening is if it's ignoring the CC0 message and using
> only CC31. I remember they came out around 1999 or so, so they postdate
> hi-definition controllers and RPN/NRPN adoption to the MIDI specification,
> but it seems sort of odd that it would only read 31 and not 0 for this
> stuff.
> Anyone got any other ideas on what might be going on here? This is odd and
> though nothing (and I mean absolutely nothing) in MIDI is mandatory it's
> still highly strange.
> Note also that though there are only 100 programs per bank this instrument
> doesn't seem to use the older Kurzweil/Oberheim style of bank change
> commands. That may only be in use for the K250 and K1000/K1200 series.
> (Which I have a lot of -- 12 modules and a keyboard of that series)
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