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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:16:29 +0000
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Subject: Greenspan warns, Congress/White House deaf

Greenspan, out of character, warns; Congress/White House deaf
In short .. kiss SocSec/Medicare goodbye in 2013 ..

Excerpts from Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/business/2003/02/12/cx_aw_0212topnews.html

Greenspan, normally a political fence-sitter, .. dared to turn Bush's own words 
back on the president's domestic economic policy .. 

Deficits of more than $250 billion in 2003 and 2004 .. "..will end this state 
of relative budget tranquility in about a decade's time," Greenspan said. 
..
In fact, in a full page ad in yesterday's New York Times, hundreds of 
economists, including ten Nobel Laureates, echoed Greenspan's doubt.

Greenspan boldly called irresponsible any policy that would bring about "the 
exhausting of the Social Security trust fund."

In Full - 
Greenspan Shoots Blanks 
Ari Weinberg, 02.12.03, 7:46 AM ET 

NEW YORK - Alan Greenspan, the usually reserved chairman of the Federal 
Reserve, is adapting to life during wartime. In the first day of his semi-
annual report to Congress on Feb. 11, the United States' highest economic 
talking head fired from the fiscal conservative cannon--er, canon. But, no 
matter the truth of his munitions, he ended up shooting blanks. 

Overshadowed by the Bush Administration's martial tone and an audiotape cameo 
by Osama bin Laden, Greenspan's caution on budget deficits, national debt and 
social security liabilities will most likely go unheeded when the Republican-
controlled Congress considers President George W. Bush's budget and fiscal 
stimulus package. 

Greenspan, normally a political fence-sitter, played directly to the Democrat's 
weak hand in his prepared testimony and responses. Not to understate the 
incredible financial risks caused by Iraq and terrorism, Greenspan dared to 
turn Bush's own words back on the president's domestic economic policy. He even 
quoted the recently released White House 2004 budget: "The longer the delay in 
enacting reforms, the greater the danger, and the more drastic the remedies 
will have to be." 
 
A federal budget that figures in deficits of more than $250 billion in 2003 and 
2004 is one of those dangerous delays to correcting the potential toppling of 
the Social Security and Medicare systems. "Short of an outsized acceleration of 
productivity to well beyond the average pace of the past seven years or a major 
expansion of immigration, the aging population now in train will end this state 
of relative budget tranquility in about a decade's time," Greenspan said. When 
Greenspan himself begins to doubt the benefit of productivity gains, it's time 
to buckle up. In fact, in a full page ad in yesterday's New York Times, 
hundreds of economists, including ten Nobel Laureates, echoed Greenspan's 
doubt. The ad was sponsored by the Economic Policy Institute, which attempts to 
speak in favor of low- and middle-income Americans--those who would be most 
affected by cuts in Social Security and Medicare. 

Greenspan also expressed worry about the rising tide of national debt to gross 
domestic product, which grew in 2002 for the first time since 1996 and is on 
track to rise to 68% from 60% by 2008. Greenspan called such a debt increase 
sobering, given the demographic pressures. "We are all too aware that 
government spending programs and tax preferences can be easy to initiate or 
expand but extraordinarily difficult to trim or shut down," he said. 

So, what does this have to do with Bush's tax plan? Everything. While Greenspan 
is in favor of eliminating the double taxation of dividends, he said he'd 
prefer it be done on the corporate level. This means that dividends could be 
tax deductible, while collecting those profits at the individual level. 
Additionally, Greenspan boldly called irresponsible any policy that would bring 
about "the exhausting of the Social Security trust fund." This implies that the 
current tax cut plan does little to focus on the inevitable. That's because it 
can hardly see true budgetary outlays, given the U.S. federal government's cash 
accounting system. 

If only, for Greenspan's sake, the government ran itself like a corporation 
truly beholden to shareholders--albeit after Sarbanes-Oxley and the regulatory 
crackdown. Greenspan said, in light of new laws, that corporate malfeasance 
won't be a problem for the immediate future. In fact, he doubted that any new 
corporate tax scams or revenue tricks would have been initiated at all last 
year. 

Recently we have seen corporations take actions that have upset either 
employees or shareholders in the short term, all for their perceived long-term 
benefit. Sure, General Electric (nyse: GE - news - people ) employees would 
rather not pony up for the jump in medical costs. And, to be sure, IBM (nyse: 
IBM - news - people ) and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) 
shareholders couldn't have been too thrilled about the pension contributions 
both companies had to make at the end of the year. Still, these moves were 
necessary actions to satisfy explicit and implicit agreements--either 
protecting margins or upholding a corporate contract. 

For Greenspan, it appears that submitting and passing an unbalanced budget is a 
step away from that direction for the government. As Senator Jon Corzine (D-
N.J.), the former co-chairman and co-chief executive officer of Goldman Sachs 
(nyse: GS - news - people ) mused about "tax cuts during a great national 
challenge," it seems that the Federal Reserve, in its interest of long-term 
national prosperity, is wondering the same thing. 

But neither the Democrats nor the Federal Reserve's concerns can be heard in 
the trenches. 


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