On Drances Infensus, I'd have thought that the quite detailed and quite negative description of his character - he's a rich, battle-shy man determined to protect his riches by destructive political intrigue, 'seditio' - tells us something. Drances' dislike of Turnus seems much more like Ressentiment than genuine moral objection. Still, he makes sensible and morally persuasive points, even though he is disturbingly disingenuous. And in the end he's right. Peace parties do in a way have a moral head-start over war parties, since peace is better than war and war is never far from insania. But the members of peace parties may not be much nicer people than the members of war parties. V may have been in a position to observe this during the Civil Wars. - Martin Hughes
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Leofranc Holford-Strevens wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M W > Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >I suppose that we have a portrait of Ressentiment, at any rate in its > >bourgeois/pompous/hypocritical form, in Drances' speech to Latinus' > >Council. > Though he is also the sensible man of peace; which undercuts which? > > As to the terror that the protagonists strike into each other, I > >would think that Aeneas is much more terrifying to Turnus than Turnus is > >to him. > Ah, it wasn't clear you meant frightening to each other, rather than to > a modern reader; in that sense certainly. > > > Leofranc Holford-Strevens > -- > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > Leofranc Holford-Strevens > 67 St Bernard's Road usque adeone > Oxford scire MEVM nihil est, nisi ME scire hoc sciat alter? > OX2 6EJ > > tel. +44 (0)1865 552808(home)/353865(work) fax +44 (0)1865 512237 > email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
