i marvel at what wankers you all are.
On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Leofranc Holford-Strevens wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >From: "Ramon Sevilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:31:17 -0600
> >
> >Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit . Aeneid I, 203.
> >
> >I marvel how Virgil in Aeneid I, 195 ss. recalls the hardships he and his
> >comrades have formerly endured. He doesn�t mention anything successful or
> >prosperous. However sharing wine with his company Aeneas speaks hopefully
> >looking forward to a future prosperity which will be the effect of a
> >painful parturition. Furthermore Aeneas refers to a deity "sine nomine",
> >an unknown god: Dabit deus his quoque finem.
> >
> >Is it appropriate to find out here something akin to a biblical Anamnesis?
> >
> >David R. Slavitt writes about the fourth book of the Georgics, that it is a
> >book "already nudging at the limits of nature... he (Virgil) is
> >deliberately venturing beyond the borders of ordinary experience and into
> >the realm of the supernatural. Or, putting it another way, he is exploring
> >the confines of reason and stepping, or leaping, beyond and into the
> >territory of faith". D.R. Slavitt, Virgil, Yale University Press,1991.
> >
> >I wonder what does Virgil mean when he mentions an unnamed god as in
> >Georgics I {immo 4] 221: deum namque ire per omnia. Or in Aeneid I,
> 199: dabit
> >deus his quoque finem.
>
> Unspecified _deus_ in Vergil may mean, at any given point, either the
> all-pervasive god of the Stoics and other philosophers or the indefinite
> _daimon_ ('some god, but who knows which one?') of Homer.
> --
> Leofranc Holford-Strevens
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