Timothy Mallon wrote:
>
> >At what historical moment was anything of the kind first thought? It
> >doesn't match anything I have read in classical or other pre-modern
> >authors; it seems to me a product of the socio-economic alienation of
> >the intellectual. (Only an intellectual could envisage the redesign of
> >reality; only an alienated one would be interested in so doing. But of
> >course we first have to define reality; and 'real', like 'free', is one
> >of those words most easily understood from their opposites in any given
> >context.)
> >
>
> Wouldn't Plato fit the definition of an alienated or disaffected
> intellectual? He certainly contemplated the redesign of much of the society
> he was born in.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply.
> Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message
> "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You
> can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
A question of sources...
During the war with Turnus, Virgil enumerates various peoples and their
leaders, with details of both. For instance, as Dryden has it:
Ocnus was next, who led his native train
Of hardy warriors thro' the wat'ry plain:
The son of Manto by the Tuscan stream,
>From whence the Mantuan town derives the name --
An ancient city, but of mix'd descent:
Three sev'ral tribes compose the government;
Four towns are under each; but all obey
The Mantuan laws, and own the Tuscan sway.
>From whence comes all these supposed details of early Italic history?
Eagerly awaiting your responses?,
Greg Farnum
Troy, Michigan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply.
Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message
"unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You
can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub