I was originally taught Latin from the Cambridge Latin course and loathed
it. We all knew that it was making up weakly fictional events to peddle
history to us and despised it for its palpable designs upon us and its
palpable failure to be honest about those designs. Then in the fifth form (I
was about 14) a most excellent dinosaur took us over (David Miller), who
wore sandals even on the coldest of February days and made us learn
subjunctives on the hottest of June days. He told us when he thought we
weren't thinking and got cross with us unless we thought about the
construction of sentences (his limbs would writhe with pain). He gave us
lots of verse to translate. I wouldn't do the kind of thing I do it if
weren't for him. The standard argument against this sort of rigour is that
it is hard on the less motivated or less able students. That didn't tally
with my experience: anyone who tried he encouraged and anyone who tried at
all and could grasp that there was a logical pattern underneath what they
were reading respected him greatly and the language.

Colin Burrow, Fellow and Tutor, Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge CB1
4AR
tel: 01223 332483
web: http://www.english.cam.ac.uk


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Butler
Sent:   04 November 1999 08:20
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Subject:        Re: VIRGIL: Latin and 12 year olds

Dear Jameel

I teach Classics at Winchester College, which might be one of the schools
your bright 12-year-olds are trying to get scholarships to. I'd be
interested to know why they find Latin unappealing - in my experience the
very bright tend to be switched off by the lack of intellectual rigour in
courses such as the Cambridge Latin Course, which de-emphasises the
analytical, 'mathematical' aspect of the language. What I think is most
exciting for this type of group is getting difficult things right - which
I know will make me sound a total dinosaur. But I expect they enjoy Maths
for that reason!

Do e-mail me personally with any concrete details which might help me
give more targeted advice.

Caroline Butler

>Dear all,
>
>I am a Classics graduate faced with a challenge.  I have recently agreed =
>to tutor some very bright 12 year olds in Latin in order to boost =
>scholarship opportunities at various schools in GB.  The reason their =
>parents have sought outside help is that Latin at school has not proved =
>appealing enough!  My job would be to enthuse as well as to edify.  Do =
>any of the mantovani have any experience in teaching this age group or =
>have any ideas which might serve to catch the attention of a bunch of =
>kids convinced that Latin is uncool?  I have only a handful of ruses but =
>I think I'm going to need a whole lot more.
>
>Thanks=20
>
>Jameel Jesani
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