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While others on Maphist clash over the  Vinland map, here are some 
observations about the germane issue of  "conclusive evidence" which came in 
the 
question & answer period during  my well-received lecture on the Waldseemueller 
map before the New York Map  Society in November.   It also permits me to 
pick up on the prior  discussion here about what the European knew about the 
New World and when  they knew it between Columbus and Magellan which is of 
much greater  importance than the old Vinland map dispute.
 
The Issue of Conclusive Evidence
 
     This issue often remains in the  mind of the beholder as we can see in 
the Vinland map  dispute.  If someone wants to drift into the domain of 
unreasonable  doubt about evidence placed before them there is little one can 
do about  that.  Sinclair Lewis once said something like "It is difficult to 
get  someone to change their understanding if their salary depends on them 
not  understanding it".  Depending on the dispute, for salary one could  
substitute "their own prior writings" or "received conventional wisdom" or  
payment for a map that many or most now regard as a fake map.
 
     Apropos European knowledge of the New  World, I should clarify that my 
remark earlier on Maphist about a  secret log was buried with King Manuel 
of Portugal regarding a clandestine,  treaty-violating circumnavigation of 
South America was only a joke to underscore  the difficult but legitimate 
issue of what is a threshold for conclusive  evidence.  In any case, a few 
Maphisters actually took seriously the idea  of a log hidden in a royal tomb.  
Of 
course, if there had been such a  precious log, surely few persons other 
than the King would have had access to  it.  But if such a log was never kept 
or lost, does that  mean that there is no conclusive evidence for such a  
path-breaking expedition?  No it does not.
 
Conclusive Evidence:  Nordenskiold's Threshold 
 
      Baron Erik Adolf Nordenskiold who  is a major figure in the history 
of cartography came to the conclusion  in his famous work Periplus -- An 
Essay on the Early  History of Charts and Sailing Directions (1897)  -- that  
there had to have been a circumnavigation of South America long before 
Magellan,  and even before Balboa..  Nordenskiold came to this conclusion 
without 
ever  seeing the Waldseemueller map.  Ironically, he died on August 12, 1901, 
 only a few weeks after Fischer discovered the map in July which was  not 
publicized for some months.
 
      Nordenskiold's firm conclusion was  based in large part on four 
pieces of evidence -- all  cartographic -- 
the discovery of the Lenox globe and the Hauslab globe gores (later  
attributed to Waldseemueller),
his own discovery of a similar globe gores known as the  Nordenskiold globe 
gores and last but not least the stunning discovery  in the 1890s of two of 
Glareanus sketch maps circa 1510 based on  or derived from Waldseemueller's 
1507 creations with one of  Glareanus' maps showing a strait as well as a 
cape (the one found  in Munich by Anton Elter) which I reproduced on the 
front cover of my  book, The Magellan Myth.
 
      Also Nordenskiold was aware of the discovery  of the Fugger 
newsletter Newen Zeytung referring to the  discovery of a strait by an 
expedition 
backed by the Lisbon Fugger-based agent  Cristobal de Haro (about whom more 
below) dated variously between 1504 and  1514.  Schoener quotes or cribs from 
this Fugger account in a  supplement he published for his 1515 globe which 
like his 1520 globe shows South  America with a strikingly true likeness.  
 
       In Periplus,  Nordenskiold on page 185 asserted that undocumented  
"freebooting expeditions" were part of the explanation for the more  
sophisticated geographical knowledge about South America one sees in these  
cartographic works.  I should point out that we know for  example of a French 
expedition down the east coast of South  America in 1503 though the French 
supposedly should not have been there  given the Treaty of 1494.  The lure was 
great even for those sailors  not from Portugal or Spain.  
 
       I argue in my book that if  Nordenskiold had lived longer, then 
given his ongoing  disagreement with von Wieser about a pre-Magellan knowledge 
of the  Pacific, the debate over the Waldseemueller map would have risen to a 
 more serious level than it did after von Wieser and Fischer cleverly 
advanced  the notion in 1903 that this amazing map did not represent much  
beyond 
Caverio/Cantino.  This is a dubious argument which Toby  Lester is more or 
less recycling in his book geared (as he told me) not for  serious scholars 
but for general readers.  Only about 11 percent of his  book deals directly 
with the Waldseemueller map.
 
        In any case, Nordenskiold  was not alone in his conclusion or 
suspicions which is why I took  great pains to reconstruct the historiography 
of 
the sharp debate  among scholars concerning this issue following von 
Wieser's book in 1884 in  defense of the Magellan First orthodoxy -- something 
which you will  not find in Lester's book or any other book for that matter. 
 
      There were other scholars in the late 1800s  such as Francis Henry 
Hill Guillemard (famous RGS member who published a still  classic work on 
Magellan in 1890) who questioned the idea that the  Europeans were in the 
complete dark about the Pacific/the strait before  Magellan.  Also Benjamin De 
Costa, Henry Stevens Sr., Archibald  Freeman, Emerson Fite, were all scholars 
who placed the Lenox  Globe well before Balboa and even before 
Waldseemueller/1507 -- which is  more than enough to transform our 
understanding of the 
historical context for  the creation of the Waldseemueller map.  In fact, I 
know of only  one scholar in 150 years who ever tried to argue that the Lenox 
Globe  could be post-Balboa.
 
The Cartographic Surge Beyond  Caverio/Cantino 
 
       Now, in addition to the Lenox  globe, we have --  thanks to my 
observation originally on Maphist no  less -- the Rosselli map made in Florence 
circa 1508 which offers  a third depiction of South America as an island-like 
continent with  a cone shape in the narrow time frame of 1505-1508 into  
which the Lenox Globe and the Waldseemueller map also fall.  In fact, the  
shape of the west coast in the Rosselli map seems better than Waldseemueller 
but  more study is needed.
 
       The bottom line:  This  distinctive imagery of new island-like 
cone-shaped  southern continent had emerged in three different  European 
locales 
because the three items are  not derivative from one another.  Indeed  
neither the Lenox globe nor the Rosselli map have the name  "America" on them 
though a later version of the Lenox Globe did  have "America" placed on it  
(see the Jagellonian-Krakow variant  dated to between 1507 and 1511). 

     
       There is an internal  consistently among these independent 
depictions -- Lenox,  Waldseemueller and Rosselli -- of South America in the 
same 
time frame  1505-1508.  It is not a question of there being only one alleged 
piece of  evidence for the conclusion of Nordenskiold and my theory which 
argues  the how and why intense curiosity drove the Portuguese to find the  
truth about whether there was second passage to Asia before the  Spanish. 
 
        It is extremely difficult  to reconcile all this evidence with the 
old story about Balboa being  the first European to see the Pacific Ocean.  
He was perhaps the first  Spaniard to see it.  But he was not the first 
European, any more than  Ponce de Leon was the first in 1513 to see Florida 
which is clearly  depicted on the Cantino and Caverio maps of the 1502-1504 
period.  The  same is true on these maps regarding the striking depiction of 
Cuba as  an island long before 1508 which is when Las Casas claimed 
circumnavigation  took place
 
      Furthermore, there is a lot more  evidence from many different kinds 
of documentation pointing toward a discovery  of the strait and at least one 
circumnavigation by 1507 -- all of which I  have discussed in my book and 
laid out systematically in my  PowerPoint presentation for the New York Map 
Society on November  14. 
 
      Here below is a brief summary,  essentially a multidisciplinary 
dossier of at least  15 dots of evidence from my book and New York lecture 
which 
made a big  impression on the audience and which I believe can be only 
connected in the  credible fashion that I have.
 
Dossier of Internally Consistent Evidence
 
A.  the aforesaid Lenox-Waldseemueller-Rosselli Cartographic  Troika so to 
speak that depicts a new
     large island-like southern  continent.
 
B.  15 additional pre-Magellan maps of a similar nature (See  Table A in 
The Magellan Myth.)
 
C.  the uncanny high accuracy of Waldseemueller's  depiction of South 
America as originally established
     in my publications in  Exploring Mercator's World in  2002-2003.
 
D.  Vespucci's claim in an early letter to Medici and also in  another 
published as Mundus Novus that
     they had reached 50 degrees along the  coast in 1501-1502 which would 
have been just short of the  strait.
     His later assertion about being way out  in the South Atlantic at 50 
degrees south was Vespucci's
     ex  post facto attempt to limit the  potential damage of his earlier 
disclosure of sensitive information to
     Medici (see the Ridolfi  Letter fragment).  This self-censorship came 
too late because one  earlier letter
     to Medici had leaked and appeared  as Mundus Novus while he was on his 
final voyage for  Portugal. 
 
E.  Vespucci's remark in his oldest surviving letter to  Medici (1502) 
about how King Manuel was sending
     more expeditions down this eastern coastline for  exploration plus 
some Portuguese documentation
     referring to some of these voyages and  captains such as Coelho, 
Cristobal Jacques, Joao de Lisboa.
 
F.  Valentine Fernandez' legal deposition  in Lisbon (May 1503) in which he 
expresses pride that one of the
     King's fleet has pushed exploration to 53  degrees latitude south -- 
which would be right there at the
     eastern opening to the Strait which would  have been hard for the 
competent Portuguese to miss.
 
G.  Magellan's own emphatic statements which appeared in print in  
Pigafetta's book on the famous voyage
      about a Beheim map depicting a strait.  Beheim died in Lisbon in 1506.
 
H.  The highly salient fact that that King Manuel had  banished the young 
Magellan (heretofore a royal
     page) to the position of a clerk in  the Casa de Mina/India where all 
the charts and maps were kept
     and where Magellan worked from about  1496 to 1505.  That was a 
ringside seat for Magellan
.
I.   Matthias Ringmann's empathic statements  about the new southern 
continent being surrounded on all
     sides by water or an immense ocean in  Cosmographiae Introductio and 
in his little 1505 poem  which
     he updated in 1507 to make clear this  specific geographical feature.  
This rewrite was a  calculated
     action and in this poem he makes  clear (as Gauthier Lud did 
elsewhere) that the source  of information 
     that had come to Saint-Die was Portugal and  concerned on-going 
Portuguese exploration of the new
     southern continent to which  Vespucci also referred in his 1502 letter 
to Medici.
 
J.  Heinrich Loritti (Glareanus) and his 9 sketch  maps dating to 1510 
based directly on Waldseemueller and
    all of which show a southern water passage (as  does Waldseemueller's 
globe gores) and with one polar 
    centric map containing Glareanus' inscription as  follows:   "Finis 
Am'rigis m't in Austru mer ad
    occidentu ominino lustrata  y" -- "The End of America in the Southern 
Sea to the west  entirely
    explored."   Translation provided by Classic Professor Emeritus William 
McCulloh, Kenyon  College 
    (Ohio).
 
K.  The Fugger-related Newen Zeytung  newsletter referring to the discovery 
of a strait to reach the  other
     ocean to the west by an  expedition financed by Cristobal de Haro.  
Again  all scholars date this
     newsletter account to before Magellan and some  date it to as early as 
1504.
 
L.  De Haro's large role in financing many Portuguese  expeditions down the 
east coast of South America
     in the 1501-1507 period.  (eg. see  Paul Gallez' biography of 
Cristobal de Haro). 
 
M.  The highly revealing fact that de Haro entirely on his  own financed 
Magellan's expedition in 1519
      for Emperor Charles V.  What  businessman would take on such 
financial risk entirely on his own  unless
      he was certain that the  Moluccas could be reached via a strait?  
unless he was certain  that
      Magellan could relocate  the southern water passage from an earlier 
discovery for which  there is evidence
      (see  above)?  Andrew Rossfelder who purchased  my book made this 
observation to me about de Haro's
      high revealingly decision as  a businessman to finance it all out of 
his own pocket in 1519.
 
N.   The curious refusal of  the Spanish to name the strait in honor of 
Magellan in  manuscript maps
      in the 1520s.  Instead we  find -- the Strait of all Saints or the 
Strait of San Antoni or even  the Strait of 
      Martin Bohemi found on two maps as  late as the 1580s.  And during 
this period de Haro served as
      head of the Casa de Espericias (Board  of Spices) in Seville in the 
1520s.
 
O.  Last but not least, the salient fact that Beheim, de  Haro, Vespucci 
and the young Magellan were all in
     Lisbon in the 1500-1506 time frame in the  wake of Cabral's discovery 
of the Brazilian coastline on the
     Portuguese side of the Treaty line in  1500.  All of these four men 
were familiar and passing  through the
     Casa de Mina/India given the focus of their  work and assignments as 
mapmakers, navigators and
     financiers.  It was a very small world,  small phone book to speak in 
which all these men were
     working in Lisbon at this time.  They  were tripping over one another 
so to speak.
 
Connecting the Dots
 
     If someone can come up with different  dots of evidence that refute my 
analysis or connect all these dots A-O via a  different interpretation that 
has superior explanatory power and  intellectual credibility than what I 
have advanced since 2002, then they  need to put that on the table.
 
      The preponderance of the internally  consistent evidence is heavily 
in favor of my analysis and  conclusion that the Portuguese disregarded the 
legal or treaty implications  of what they were doing to satisfy their need 
to know for certain  whether and where a second water passage might fall with 
regard to that treaty  demarcation line given the huge stakes involved. 
 
      The potential threat to their established  African route to Asia was 
serious if a second passage to Asia in the West  belonged to the Spanish.  
Ultimately, it proved to be on the Spanish side  of the line (hence the 
silence in Lisbon).  However, that alternative  route to the Moluccas was much 
longer and so arduous that King Manuel  could breath more easily.  This 
silence in Lisbon, however, did not  prevent knowledge of the Portuguese 
discoveries relating to South  America from seeping or leaking into some early 
maps 
or globes such as  Lenox, Rosselli, Waldseemueller et al.  This is the 
central message of my  book and lectures.
 
       In any case, I believe fair  minded or open-minded persons will 
agree that I have connected very  important dots of solid evidence in a 
careful, 
reasonable  and even compelling fashion and that the burden of proof is now 
 heavily on those who would try to provide alternative dots of  evidence 
for some alternative theory.
I do not think there is other different evidence out there pointing in  
another direction such as Gavin Menzies tried to argue in favor of the  Chinese 
in 2002-2003.
  
       Finally, I believe that  those who argue that what was said or 
written or depicted with regard  to this new southern continent (See A-O above) 
was still only rooted  in imagination, speculation or represent just a 
serendipitous stream of  unconnected developments that never took the Europeans 
beyond what we see in the  Caverio/Cantino maps lack all credibility at this 
point given the pattern  and preponderance of evidence points in the 
direction of an early  Portuguese circumnavigation of South America not too 
many 
years after Da Gama's  circumnavigation of Africa in 1498.  
 
      If someone wants to take me on in a  public debate to refute my 
position, then I look forward to such a  debate.     

I should observe that I agreed in  principle to the suggestion to speak 
jointly with Lester but that fizzled  no doubt because he preferred it 
otherwise,  He spoke also at the New York  Public Library only 3 days after I 
spoke 
there.   I look forward  to joint presentations or full-blown public debates 
with Lester or  anyone else about which book has or is closer to the true 
story behind  the Waldseemueller map which I think most will agree is of much 
greater  importance now than the old Vinland map dispute.
 
Peter 

 
    
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