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Hello.. I myself "studied " it (for about half an hour, I confess). For some reason I wondered was whether anyone has considered it might have been an authentic map which was later altered to make it appear to be a fake. For what it's worth (probably not much!) I tested it against a googel map projection..... it seemed notably (or suspiciously) accurate in terms of proportion in a few areas. The general shape or "gestalt" of the Mediterranean seems very accurate, which seemed fairly logical, but I noticed that some areas of Northwest Aftrica seemed more surprisingly accurate, while the northern or Nordic areas seemed less so- again surprisingly. David Suter (artist) ####### In a message dated 1/5/10 2:33:01 PM, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 1/29/10 10:02:04 PM, [email protected] writes: > On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Nick Pelling wrote: > > >Surely a reasonably complete scenario together with a hypothesis > >that can be tested (and preferably which may be demonstrated false > >by the same class of evidence, not just correlated) is perfectly OK > >science circa 2009? > > To which Kenneth Towe replied, > "You are quite correct. It should have read "reasonably complete". > The problem is that we do not know what the current Enterline > hypothesis is... the one that goes together with his reasonably > complete scenario. The reasonably complete scenario that he published > in 2002 has been shown to be awkward in several places. ..." > > I am grateful for Ken sticking with the discussion and helping to > illuminate those places. However, his complaint that the scenario > changes as a result of those illuminations is not the proper > scientific attitude. We WANT to come up with the best scenario > before going to the trouble of experimenting on it. The subsequent > exchanges with Ken led to my modifying the scenario to allow for an > auto-separation of carbon from an originally carbon-containing ink > under the re-liquefying effect of bleaching. Ken referred to my 2002 > scenario as "reasonably complete," so he should consider my 2010 > similarly. > > Those who care to read carefully the recent history of our exchanges > will see that I have avoided addressing Ken's sarcasms, innuendos and > twisting of what I have said, but have for the most part given > factual answers to his factual questions. I would appreciate knowing > any lapses therefrom. One that I know remains: "Where can one > actually see and study a medieval iron gall ink with added carbon > black written on parchment, not on paper?" I am not in a field where > I could come across such, but there are many readers who could. I > would hope one of them would come forward. > > Finally, the characterization of exactly how the separated carbon > would behave can only be determined by experiment. Perhaps one > testable hypothesis would be that after some handling it behaves > exactly how the Vinland Map looks. A reasonable experimental goal > would be to find the parameter boundaries for achieving such results. > > Kenneth Towe is not likely to volunteer for such duty, but perhaps > someone else with access to laboratories could volunteer. It is a > factual answer worth having. As time goes by I might myself > undertake it, but certainly at the risk of having Ken dismiss it as a > "kitchen table experiment." Meanwhile, a definitive conclusion of > this thread will have to wait. Even as I write I am planning to go > out and purchase a clean piece of vellum. > > James Enterline > > _______________________________________________ >
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