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I'm afraid that I sent my first query too hastily, and realized after the
fact that I had not yet consulted van der krogt, which sits on a shelf
immediately behind my desk. As Francis Herbert points out, van der Krogt
essentially solves the problem.

Henry Taliaferro   



On 9/9/10 5:11 AM, "Francis Herbert" <[email protected]>
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> Dear Henry Taliaferro,
> 
> You end your query with "Can anyone shed some light on this subject?".
> I, for one, cannot - "but I know a man who could". But would you, first
> of all, make contact with the following monograph -
> 
> 'Koeman's Atlantes Neerlandici, New Edition, Volume 1 : The folio
> atlases published by Gerard Mercator[,] Jodocus Hondius[,] Henricus
> Hondius[,] . . . and their successors', compiled by Dr Peter van der
> Krogt ('t Goy - Houten [NL] : HES, 1997), ISBN 90-6194-268-3? The first
> of the compiler's two 'Concordances - 'Old to New [Koeman] Atlas
> Numbers' (p.753) - gives information on your (old) Koeman numbers Me 30
> and 35; and a lot more, such as the 'Biographical notes' (pp.31-9) on
> the main players noted therein. Upon the fair basis of your having
> digested information from this work I guess Peter would be willing to
> update/clarify any residual queries:)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Francis Herbert ('who helped')
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Henry Taliaferro
> Sent: 08 September 2010 21:29
> To: Discussion group for map history
> Subject: [MapHist] Jodocus Hondius plates
> 
> I have recently acquired a Hondius composite atlas that seems to have a
> complicated history. The atlas has the title-page to the 1633 Henricus
> Hondius Atlas Appendix (Koeman Me 35.)  But the contents in no way
> resemble
> those of that atlas.
> 
> 27 of its 29 maps bear the imprint of Jodocus Hondius and are printed
> from
> the plates sold by the heirs of Jodocus Hondius Jr. to Willem Blaeu in
> 1629.
> 
> Koeman list a composite (Me 30), which he describes as being "composed
> of
> maps ... By Jodocus Hondius not used for the Mercator atlas [1629].")
> Virtually all of our maps are found there.
> 
> Although it is never appears in the more frequently cited sources, I
> presume that when it is stated that Blaeu bought 36 Jodocus Hondius
> plates
> from the heirs of Jodocus Hondius Jr., we are speaking about plates only
> engraved by Jodocus Hondius Jr., and not Jodocus Hondius Sr.
> 
> I have gone through the collation of the 1623 and 1628 Mercator Hondius
> atlases and do not see any maps there that appear to be printed from
> these
> plates, and Koeman specifically says that no such maps appeared in the
> 1629
> edition. That he does not mention the 1628 or earlier editions suggests
> that
> the plates may not have been ready until late 1628 or 1629, and then
> were
> sold before they could be included in the 1629 edition. I note that one
> of
> the maps, that of the Elbe, is dated 1628.  I further note that another,
> the
> map of Virginia is generally described as the rarest of the John Smith
> derivatives.
> 
> Am I correct in assuming that these plates were very recently engraved,
> and
> had not yet appeared in any regularly produced Hondius atlas when they
> were
> sold? If so, a certain number of map sheets must have already been
> pulled by
> the time of the sale.
> 
> If this is true, how were these maps presented to the public? In
> composites
> such as ours and that cited by Koeman?  Henricus Hondius and Joannes
> Jansson
> do not seem to have included any of them in the Atlas Majoris Appendix
> (from
> 1630) or the Atlas Appendix (from 1633).
> 
> If they were recently engraved, thus up-to-date, and had not yet
> appeared in
> any Hondius atlases, it might explain why they were of such interest to
> the
> Blaeus.
>   
> Can anyone shed some light on this subject?
> 
> Henry Taliaferro
> 
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