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--- Sab 8/1/11, Francis Herbert <[email protected]> ha scritto: Da: Francis Herbert <[email protected]> Oggetto: RE: [MapHist] Gaspar and Miguel Corte Real A: [email protected], "'Discussion group for map history'" <[email protected]> Data: Sabato 8 gennaio 2011, 12:27 This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the whole list) o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + Only one (source-orientated) comment, which could save some people some unnecessary confusion and time, in respect of the following statement - "Evidence for this alternative can be found in a document, ostensibly dated to December 1586, held at the British Museum [Five pages. Brit. Mus., Harleian, 167, fols. 100–108.]" The British Museum's Dept of MSS, since 1973, has formed another division of The British Library, and moved physically to new BL building at St Pancras in 1998. Unlike, perhaps somewhat oddly, the Dept of Prints and Drawings that remains in – and administratively part of - the BM in Bloomsbury. Francis Herbert (who, like many other BM/BL readers, had to get accustomed to both the changes of admin status of individual Departments/Divisions, and – when appropriate - physical re-location about 1 mile away) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry J. Deveau Sent: 07 January 2011 04:55 To: 'Discussion group for map history' Subject: [MapHist] Gaspar and Miguel Corte Real Jean Fontaine's summary of the Corte Real expeditions, 1500-1502, and the disappearance of Gaspar and Miguel Corte Real is certainly the generally accepted version of events. There is an alternative explanation, that Gaspar or Manuel Corte Real (or both) were secretly imprisoned for life in Portugal as punishment for allowing knowledge of their geographical findings to become public. According to this theory, the "Lost at Sea" version may have been officially promulgated "for public consumption". Evidence for this alternative can be found in a document, ostensibly dated to December 1586, held at the British Museum [Five pages. Brit. Mus., Harleian, 167, fols. 100–108.] An extract from this document was published by W. Noel Sainsbury (editor) in 1864, 'East Indies: December 1586', Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 2: 1513-1616 (1864), pp. 94. The Sainsbury publication is online at this URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=68613 The pertinent passage is as follows: "The North-west passage sought for by divers English mariners; by Sebastian Cabot, who did not sail above 52°; by Martin Frobisher of late years, who sailed to 62° and then laded his ship with a kind of supposed treasure; “but the passage lieth at 66° or 67° north, and there it is to be found and not shorter.” Cortesrealis sailed from the South into the North Sea at 66°, and on his return to Portugal was imprisoned for life for making known that passage." Would anyone care to comment on that? Regards, Terry [. . .] -----Segue allegato----- _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.nl Maphist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist
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