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This map was made by me in 2011. Locations names ( I have found 14) was given
by Roman Surveyors in 27 BC after time when Octavian changed his name in
August. In charge of survying was: Polyclitus, 'haighly knowlegeable and chosen
man'. I just discoverd toponims on maps. More details in : "The Four Surveyors"
2010.
Giulio
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Da: Leslie Trager <[email protected]>
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Inviato: Martedì 26 Aprile 2011 15:47
Oggetto: Re: R: FW: [MapHist] Question on Eastern old maps
Wow. Was this map really made in 27 BC. It appears to show South America,
Africa and Australia. I would be interested in knowing more data as to what I
am really looking at.
Les
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Subject: Re: R: FW: [MapHist] Question on Eastern old maps
Deborah, Bruce
Many past accomplishments have been lost to us, but World Survey of Caesar
haven't been lost.
See for exemple survey of Tropic of Capricorn made by Augustus in 27 BC
attacched.
Giulio
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Giulio,
> World survey started in 44 b. C.
> in Altinum, near modern Venice.
> Eastern part of the World
> took only 21Years, 5 Months,
> 9 Days. See the attached
> translation of Honorius
> Cosmographia.
Thanks for sending the _Cosmographia_ PDF.
I agree: it's utterly fascinating.
But I can offer no further help re. if/how such an early world survey was done.
As Bruce noted in his post, so many past accomplishments have been lost to
us....
One thing I do know is that during the Renaissance period of rediscovery (of
which Bruce reminded me), scientists poured over many of these same classical
texts, facing even more interpretive difficulties than we do today.
Robert Hooke, for instance, analyzed Ovid's _Metamorphoses_ as "a history of
the Productions, Ages, States and Changes that have formerly happened to the
Earth." (Hooke also learned to read Chinese, and he looked to ancient Chinese
writings for corroboration of his theory of a much older earth than a
literalist reading of scriptural chronology allowed.)
In England, C17 scientists were utterly thrilled to (re)discover some of the
MSS. of Roger Bacon, and to learn that one of their own countrymen had
invented, so early on, such marvels as a flying machine, a deepsea submersible,
and an "Engine ... only three fingers high, and four broad", described as
useful for prison breaks since it had the power to raise or lower "the very
greatest weight" ("For hereby a man may either ascend or descend any walls,
delivering himself or comrads from prison ...")!
But even the very best minds of the 17th century were at a loss to understand
how Roger Bacon accomplished these things.
Based on the textual accounts he read (e.g., in Hero's works), Hooke had no
doubt that the ancients "were able to do very great things" ... he just
couldn't figure out how to duplicate their achievements (and he spent a great
deal of time trying! ;-).
I tend to be more skeptical than Hooke of the textual evidence on which the
more spectacular claims for some ancient arts & sciences are based, and expect
that many of the mysteries surrounding them will never be solved.
But that doesn't mean we can't keep on trying. <vbg>
I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors on this front!
Deborah
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