RE: MI MapInfo 5.5 Bummer

[p . graham . mky]

The latest printer drivers from HP do not fix the out-of-memory problems with NT4 and MI5.5.  Just as a simple test, try sending the problem map to the hp650c from a win95 machine and notice the difference in behavior and the relative file sizes created by NT4 and win95 (using the same version driver - 4.1).  We don't have any problems sending a map with a 600mb raster overlaid by vectors and text to a networked hp650c using the "in computer" option from a win95 machine - forget it if you are using NT4.   Regards Peter Graham WS Group - Mackay Ph: +61 7 4951 2911 Fx:: +61 7 4953 1319 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Embrey Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 1:02 PM To: Andrew Pollock Cc: MAPINFO-L Subject: Re: MI MapInfo 5.5 Bummer Andrew,     In the office where I work, we were able to solve many large job printing problems on our HP650C by installing a printer driver which allows the option of processing the image on the local workstation. We also have a "JetDirect" print server card in our plotter. This allowed printing directly to the 650C parallel port while it remained connected to our LAN, which helped but did not eliminate the problem. We plugged in  an extra 20MB of RAM which helped but did not eliminate the "Out of memory" errors when processing in the plotter. Our IT services people suggested installing the optional HP hard drive in the plotter, but we could not justify the cost without knowing whether that would fix the problem.     My workstation is configured with NT4, 64MB RAM and an 850M hard drive. I frequently print jobs exceeding 20MB.  I have noticed that most failures occur when a lot of jobs are queued in the spooler/plotter. In that case, you might plot overnight, or in a less busy time. We are attached to a very busy NOVELL LAN, but I do not believe that the type of LAN is a significant issue with this problem as we have the plotting problems you describe when not processing the print job locally. I think the problem is the plotter memory (or lack thereof).     You might also remember that the size of the print job might be much larger coming out of the printer driver than it was going in. Lot's of detaiI makes the print job much larger. You could experiment with this by incrementally removing detail from your map and then printing to see if it works - a sort of "wind it up 'til it breaks and then back it off a half a turn" fix. I would be grateful if you could share your experiences in correcting this problem as we are upgrading to MAPINFO 5.5 (from 4.12) soon and seem to be similarly configured IT-wise. Well that's my story - maybe a new printer driver is all you need.   With Kind Regards,                                David Embrey                                [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Pollock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 3:20 AM Subject: Re: MI MapInfo 5.5 Bummer Gee, all this time I thought it was our server upgrade to NT from Novell that was causing the problem.  Glad to hear that it is MI5.5.  Last night I printed a file that spooled to 960K and came back this morning with an Out of Memory error on the plotter and half a print.  And forget sending a file that spools over that size, argh!! BTW: HP650C with 44MB RAM (recently increased to 52MB) NT4 Workstation w/ SP4 - 128MB RAM; 9 GB hard drive NT4 Server w/ SP4 - 4 9GB hd's Drew Pollock At 11:23 AM 7/22/99, you wrote: >I upgraded to 5.5 last week and everything is great all the new stuff, but, >I work with very large amounts of raster files and now I am unable to print >them in a productive manner. We upgraded from 4.5 to 5.5, this was because >that 5.0 dealing with raster did not allow the transparency overlap, so we >went back to 4.5 and everything was fine. When we heard that 5.5 had cured >this problem and worked with rasters in a different way we were real happy >and could not wait to the upgrade. Well I am not very happy anymore. I can >not print any of my large files. If I print through the printer I need to >start the print in the morning and maybe get it the next day if it does not >hang. If I print using the "in computer" so that I will not run out of >memory, I get the message that I do not have enough hard disks space to >finish the process. I work off a server and my hard drive is 4 GB and I >still do not have enough to finish a plot. Why did Mapinfo have to change >things from Version 4.5, everything worked fine then. I sent a print that >has roughly 60 USGS raster quad maps in it from MapInfo 4.5 and it spooled >approx. 2MB and it took about 5 minutes to process and then started to >print. I sent the same exact file in MapInfo 5.5 and it spooled for about 3 >hours and processed 2GB of data and never printed because I did not have >enough hard disk space. When a upgrade comes out I am assuming that things >are suppose to be better and faster, well that is not true in this case is >it. And we all know about the word ASS U ME. If anybody knows if there is a >cure I would greatly appreciate it, or I guess I will have to keep a version >of 4.5 on a extra computer so that I can print but then that creates a whole >new set of problems dealing with taking workspaces from higher to lower. >Someone please help. And all replys about ProPress or HyperPress do not >bother I have went down that road as well. I say lets bring back 4.5 part of >Raster back to 5.5 and leave it alone. > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put >"unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><><><><><><><><><><> <><>    N O T E   <><> <><><><><><><><><><><> This email address has changed... 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