-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Letham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GISList: Comments on DEMS


Greetings all,
(sorry for the delay... I actually composed an even longer
email yesterday afternoon, only to have my computer GPF me
and shut down prematurely before I hit the send button!).....

............ saved by GPF?

Glenn I wish you luck with the responsibility to gather a fair value for
free information.  To paraphrase your recent comments ....

"The site takes it roots in serving free data and that's not going to
change".... But given "Most people would rather grab everything they can
get" Geocomm will meter it "at a very nominal price that can't be matched.
The main reason that the premium pipe is available only by $$ is that it
would likely be abused if it was free". Lastly, Geocomm has "Lots of people
(are) coming to the GISDataDepot for data as a result of this arrangement.
Our logs show that the interest is not only in DEMs but a huge surge in DRG
and DOQ downloads and sales has resulted."

As you honestly admit, Geocomm  is enjoying the complement of the lure of
"free" data (code word for "loss leader") to drive Geocomm's business model
as a source of geographic information for a fee. An interesting business
model that only works as long as there is no truly free site with better
service.  Given the on-going WEB discussion of service versus value as you
sort this out, I suspect the numerous issues involved will be a bit of a
mill stone around your neck for some time.  You have a great, no unique,
platform to defend Geocomm's role and position.  

I am not certain you strike the mark on "just adequate" service for
information defined as "public" to dive the user to your "for fee" premium
server.  Such a scheme seems simply anti everything the user community had
hoped for from public data. I suspect the USGS is simply attempting to get
in step with the current Beltway political currents.  Your ambition does
raise the level of public awareness in issues like this.

I was talking to public GIS data advocate who is a historian within the
USDA/Land Grant tradition.  I was astonished to find he was aware of this
recent USGS policy shift.  Apparently the USDA is under pressure to off-load
their Soil Survey information data in a like manner but that data has more a
more complex public utility due to the involvement of State value.
Apparently your currently exclusive arrangement is causing far more "equal
information access" turmoil that you may guess.  

I could not pin my source down on the issues of the internal USDA policy
debate.  He did mention there is a "historic" reason and a deep legacy of
public policy law confirming the role of the US Printing Office for
information utility like this. 

FWIW
MidNight Mapper



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