We are doing the same evaluation. Since the list does not allow attachments, here is what I found on the recent list postings pasted wherein.
WINDOWS 2000 I am just developing an application for FTP of MapInfo tables using routines from wininet.dll. All works almost fine under NT 4.0, but under Windows 2000 I have severe problems, for example with connection to the ftp server. Any help (urgent) would be very appreciated! **************************************************************************** ******** We are having problems here with some of our Gateway PC's crashing and re-booting. Of course Gateway is working with us to fix it, but my question is, how many of you with the above problems are using Gateways?? **************************************************************************** ******** I'm running Win2000 with no problems now. I can only say that Win2000 is the most stable OS i've used. And no I'm not working with Microsoft. I did have some problems when I started using it. Sometimes like a like a bolt from the blue Windows crashed with a blue screen. After a while I found out that this occured when ever I was resizing the windows - and often from within MapInfo, but of course I work maybe 90 % of my time in MapInfo/MapBasic. And it also happend in other software programs. After a while we figured out that the problem was a conflict with the videocard which was working more or less as a television screen. The display device was sat to TV. We then changed it to LCD and voila as the french - and canadian ? - say. The problems were all gone. I'm running the Win2000 on a Toshiba Sattellit Pro 4600, if anyone would like to know. Hope this can help any of you out there. **************************************************************************** ******** you might have a conflict with your printer drivers. With later = versions of MapInfo you can save printer information in the workspace. A simple = command like file-page setup can cause a conflict that can restart the machine because the printer driver that the workspace references is from your = old workstation. If this is the cause of your problem, you can use a text editor and comment our all references to printers or make the = corrections to refer to the WIN 2K printer driver. **************************************************************************** ******** May I remember you that only MapInfo 6.5 is supposed to be Win 2000 compatible? Most problems we experienced last summer with version 6 and win 2000 were solved when we updated MapInfo to 6.5. But we had other problems than those you describe (display and save options...) I hope this can help **************************************************************************** ******** We used to have the same re-booting issue running Map Info 5.0 on NT Server 4.0. It seemed to happen during the time we were plottting or working in the Lay-out window. I downloaded and installed all of the latest Nt 4.0 Ceritfied printer and plotter drivers. In your case, make sure all of the drivers are Win2000 certified. I do not have MI 6.0 yet but hope to next year. I hope this helps you and can help us also when we upgrade to 6.0. **************************************************************************** ******** We used to have the same re-booting issue running Map Info 5.0 on NT Server 4.0. It seemed to happen during the time we were plottting or working in the Lay-out window. I downloaded and installed all of the latest Nt 4.0 Ceritfied printer and plotter drivers. In your case, make sure all of the drivers are Win2000 certified. I do not have MI 6.0 yet but hope to next year. I hope this helps you and can help us also when we upgrade to 6.0. Myron C. Brown MI USER AT LARGE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valentin Padilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: MI-L MapInfo & Windows 2000 compatibility problems > Greetings, > > I�ve been working in a new workstation which runs W2K, and often happens > that working with mapinfo 6.0, the PC restarts itself, I wonder if there is > any compatibility problem between this two softwares? > > I apriciate any help you could bring me. > > Regards, > > Carlos Padilla > Dupont de Venezuela, C.A. > SIG assistant-internship > I've been working on the same setup but have not experienced any such problem Arash **************************************************************************** ******** I also have had issues with version 6.0 and W2K. It will take anywhere from 5-10 minutes to open a table. Does anyone know why? **************************************************************************** ******** A curious thing occurs with the subject configuration. SpatialWare will not work unless the computer (a laptop) is plugged into the network. This in itself is odd. Tech Support informed me that the license info is taken off the network card (among other things). They also informed me that this is a problem unique to Windows 2000. As I MUST use the laptop for various customer demos, it has to work without being on a network. Tech Support suggested that there is some kind of way to "trick" Win2K into "believing" it is on a network when, in fact, it is not. They could not provide me with the necessary sorcery, so I'm turning to te List - usually a very reliable source for solutions. **************************************************************************** ******** WINDOWS XP SECTION **************************************************************************** ******** As you may know already, MapInfo Professional 6.5 is Microsoft Windows 2000 Logo certified. At the time of ship of MapInfo Professional 6.5, Windows XP was not ready for release therefore, we could not support it. For the upcoming release of MapInfo Professional 7.0 (slated for the summer of 2002) we will be supporting XP and even are considering getting the Microsoft Logo certification for it. Hope this info helps, ___________________________________ Moshe Binyamin Product Manager MapInfo Corporation **************************************************************************** ******** Hi, Yes, you'll have to look out for everything... MapInfo is neither tested nor certified for MapInfo XP, this is the official version. And for that case it wasn't certfied (or tested) on WinME either. I'm not sure if MapInfo Corp has started testing it on WinXP. You'll need to remember that MapInfo Pro 6.5 was released before WinXP and therefor couldn't get certified (or tested) **************************************************************************** ******** er like mac OS X classic... well at least Microsoft are only 6 months behind Apple for a change wow backwards compatibility that 'll get MS shareholders sweating which ever X you use........ happy mapping Adrian > >evidently XP has a switch that allows you to emulate windows 95, 93, me, >2000, etc. If you have software that only works on the earlier OS versions, >you can set XP to emulate the earlier OS versions to allow you to run that >software **************************************************************************** ******** ...but MapInfo claims to be "Windows Certified" with their 6.5 > release, so I guess there's no worries there. ... This is not quite right. MapInfo ver 6.5 is Windows2000 certified, but not XP certified. However, according to MapInfo, no one has yet reported any major problems with MapInfo running on XP. Does anyone know for a fact if you can still buy a legal copy of Windows2000 anywhere? -- - Bill Thoen **************************************************************************** ******** I stand corrected - thanks to Tim. MI Pro 6.5 is Win2000 certified. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Tim.Nuteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:47 AM To: 'Chuck' Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: Windows XP, MapInfo and SpatialWare Questions There were some optional items marked with an asterisk on the install screen that are not Win2k certified (I think some old legacy things like Arclink or something - I didn't install them so I can't say). Mapinfo Pro itself is certified. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:45 AM To: Tim.Nuteson Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: Windows XP, MapInfo and SpatialWare Questions Tim, I looked at the bottom of the CD install screen where it says that it was tested on Win2000 but not certified. Maybe this has changed since we installed. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Tim.Nuteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:33 AM To: 'Chuck' Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: Windows XP, MapInfo and SpatialWare Questions Hi Chuck. MI Pro 6.5 is indeed Win2k certified. Look on the edge of the box. There had to be a reason for me to jump through all these flaming hoops during the upgrade. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:24 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: Windows XP, MapInfo and SpatialWare Questions MI Pro 6.5 is not Win2000 certified. Although I run W2k and MI Pro 6.5. Chuck Collins Nucomm Data, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:00 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L SUM: Windows XP, MapInfo and SpatialWare Questions Thanks for the quick responses to my question about the issues involved with upgrading to Windows XP and how it works with MapInfo, SQL Server and Spatial Ware. I got very little response (none actually) about how this new OS treats MapInfo and Spatial Ware, but MapInfo claims to be "Windows Certified" with their 6.5 release, so I guess there's no worries there. However, the pointers and suggestions I got about XP itself were eye-openers. I've formed three opinions about Windows XP. The first that it is probably the best OS Microsoft has ever built. The second is that they've poisoned it with features designed more to give Microsoft control over its users and market rathar than empower the users. I think it is really a Trojan horse designed to neutralize resistance to the coming .NET invasion. My third opinion is that we are going to have it shoved down our throats anyway, so we might as well steel ourselves to accept the inevitable. If the DOJ can't control Microsoft, then resistance is futile. I'm a little soured on XP for reasons that are more political than technical, but decide for yourself. Check out the URLs below and see what you think. These were sent to me by responders, but I've added a short summary to each so you can see what you want to check out in detail. *** There'll be no XP for Me http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/10/08/011008oplivingston.xml InfoWorld Editorial by Brian Livingston Recommends that most people and companies avoid XP. Lists security weaknesses (see URL to AT&T lab results), and points out that MS can use your data any way they please. In particular, Microsoft can change the contract at any time by simply altering a web page. It uses an 4-year old version of Java (an up-yours to Sun, apparently) and has dropped plug-ins for web browsers (rendering many Netscape-friendly web sites unusable.) *** Activation, anyone? http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/10/15/011015oplivingston.xml InfoWorld Op-ed piece by Brian Livingston "...Microsoft's new Windows XP operating system, scheduled for wide distribution on Oct. 25, has so few real benefits and so many irritations -- especially Passport, an insecure and relentless scheme to vacuum up users' e-mail addresses -- that I instead recommend buying new PC systems with Windows 2000 installed." Brian does not like XP, it seems. This article is mainly about a new feature in XP, the Windows Product Activation (WPA.) *** Woody's Windows Watch http://www.woodyswatch.com/windows/archtemplate.asp?4-17 "Windows XP is a slam-dunk no-brainer upgrade for any Windows 98/ME user who has hefty enough hardware to run it." Obviously, Woody Leonhard likes it. This article contains tips on where to buy Windows cheap, XP installation, drivers, how to avoid MS Passport, etc., but it's pretty lightweight. *** What Users Should Expect With New Windows XP http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/mailbox-20010920.html Walter S. Mossberg Sept 20, 2001 This is basically some Q&A on Windows XP. He points out that there is very little difference between the Home and Professional versions. Also notes that the equipment required is pretty much the latest. "Microsoft recommends that you have at least a Pentium III running at 300 megahertz, 128 megabytes of memory, and 1.5 gigabytes of free hard disk space. You also need a video card and monitor with a minimum resolution of 800 by 600, higher than prior versions of Windows needed. Not only that, but Microsoft says that XP was designed for the latest hardware, and therefore it doesn't recommend running Windows XP on a PC manufactured before the year 2000." He describes "Activation" like so: "Microsoft will create a profile of your PC, and "lock" it in a database to your specific Windows CD. Then, if you install Windows XP from that same CD on a second PC, when you try to activate it again, Microsoft's records will show that it's already locked to a different machine and Windows will fail to work on the second PC." Microsoft will allow users to transfer a license to a new machine. DOS programs will not run on XP. *** Windows XP Has Stable System; Keeps Users in Microsoft Corral http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20010920.html Walter S. Mossberg Sept 20, 2001 This is a good review of Windows XP, pointing out both the technical and political issues involved with it. He declares the OS stable and reliable, with several performance improvements, but he condemns Microsoft for putting their business interests in front of user choice, calling XP no less than a "Trojan horse." "All in all, Windows XP is the best operating system Microsoft has ever produced. But the company's ferocious drive to dominate the digital world mars its masterpiece." *** Microsoft Windows XP - Professional Upgrade CNET Review by Matt Lake (Sep 4, 2001) http://www.cnet.com/software/0-806340-1205-6534885.html?tag=st.sw.806340-120 4-6534885.rev-rev.806340-1205-6534885 This is a generally favorable review, but the praise is not without reservation. The look of XP is new and frustrating, and the activation requirements are annoying. "The activation scheme checks the IDs of 10 different hardware components to create a special code for your PC. If your hard drive dies or you change your network interface card or reconfigure more than 5 of these components in your system, you'll have to reactivate your copy of XP." Apparently, Microsoft will be lenient with these situations; you can contact them and explain your plight and they will give you another key. Probably. The article goes deeper into topics like Product activation and interface, Internet and networking, Home vs. Professional, Digital media, Hardware and software compatibility, and results of CNET Labs tests. *** The real reason behind the anti-Microsoft-Passport alliance http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2817749,00.html by David Coursey Oct 15, 2001 This is about Sun's Liberty Alliance, the opposition. They seem really more concerned about getting stomped flat by Microsoft than they are about ethics. *** Windows XP: Battle over the Internet http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2818238,00.html by Joe Wilcox Oct 17, 2001 Well, this is a scary one. It's long, but well worth reading closely. It's all about Microsoft's strategy with XP as their test OS for their new .NET system. Paints a bit of a "Microsoft uber alles" scenario. *** Meet the dark side of Windows XP http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2819063,00.html by David Coursey Oct 22, 2001 Discusses a numbered list of XP problems. Includes 1.) Licensing and Cost, 2.) Activation, 3.) Firewall woes, 4.) Wireless woes, 5.) Drivers (not enough of them), 6.) Applications compatibility, 7.) Home vs. Pro, 8.) Memory, 9.) Passport, 10.) MSN, 11.) No MP3 support, and 12.) MS firewall weakness. Points out the free compatibility checker, XP Upgrade Advisor at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp. *** XP countdown: More of your top questions answered http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2819476,00.html by David Coursey Oct 23, 2001 This is a Q&A piece about using Windows XP from a practical perspective-no politics. *** Windows XP urban legends and myths--debunked! http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2819735,00.html by David Coursey Oct 24, 2001 Claims that MS cannot and will not "turn off" your software once the successor to XP comes out in the future. (I'm sure they will have better digital thumbscrews available.) Discusses the "Corporate" license, which is basically a volume license (5 or more copies), which bypasses the activation problem. If you want to periodically wipe your disk, and reinstall, you can, as long you don't change the BIOS or network card, nor more than six of the 10 hardware components listed in the tech docs (http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/windowsproductactivationt echnicalmarketbulletin.doc ) There is a counter that resets to zero every 120 days which allows a user to swap out components without triggering the activation requirement. *** The 10 top things you MUST know about Win XP http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2820081,00.html by David Coursey Oct 25, 2001 This is a list of "reasons to buy" XP. Very rah, rah! But there always seems to be a worm in every shiny apple. I think the following applies to the home user as well: "If you are a corporate customer, Microsoft is pushing very hard to get you into a licensing program for both Windows XP and Office XP. Maybe you don't like being pushed--especially as hard as Microsoft did--but get over it: That's how you'll be buying software from here on out." Sounds like Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNeally's comment, "You have no privacy on the internet. Get over it!" This "get over it" attitude really makes me puke. Who do these arrogant bastards think they are? *** Grab a seat, and join me for my dinner with Bill Gates http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2820297,00.html by David Coursey Oct 26, 2001 Pretty worthless article, unless you'd like to know about Bill Gates' taste in food or how he handles the media. *** Join me for my dinner with Bill Gates, part 2: The Q&A http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2820604,00.html by David Coursey Oct 29, 2001 This was a little better, including some interesting "vision things" from Gates, but won't really help you to evaluate XP. -- - Bill Thoen **************************************************************************** ******** >From what I'm finding, there is no additional cost to activate XP, Home or Pro versions (but you gotta do it). Activation can be done over the web or via a 24/7 telephone number. The telephone route will require you to copy about 100 digits correctly, and you may have to wait in a phone queue, so that will probably be mildly to extremely annoying. But step in some dog droppings on your way to work and activating XP won't be the worst thing to happen to you that day. Corporate licenses do not need to be activated, but you need to buy 5 or more licenses. -- - Bill Thoen William "Woody" Woodruff Zoning Administrator Charter Township of Union, Isabella County, Michigan (989) 772 4600 EXT 41 Visit our web site at http://www.geocities.com/ctuzoning/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ian Macey Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:13 AM To: MI List (E-mail) Subject: MI-L PC spec Hello all I am getting a new pc and debating whether to get a win2000 NT workstation or go for xp. As I understand it MI Professional 6.5 is not xp certified but 7.0 due out this summer probably will be. 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